tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post2213835709262806780..comments2024-03-25T15:17:04.488-07:00Comments on Captain Capitalism: The Economics of the Sex and Attention ExchangeCaptain Capitalismhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05620212946121617985noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-69574805701389225192014-06-16T15:07:17.030-07:002014-06-16T15:07:17.030-07:00Hey Cap, you sort of left out that distinction tha...Hey Cap, you sort of left out that distinction that some men are involved in the dance scene to meet "A Girl" as opposed to "Any Girl". This is borne out by the many long-term serious relationships and even marriages and that have come out of the various dance scenes. I submit that pretty much any of the given "social dance scenes" have proven themselves much better places to find a "mate" than the "club scene". - JFargoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-77044021870030734802014-02-28T04:21:47.427-08:002014-02-28T04:21:47.427-08:00This just boils back down to the culture of entitl...This just boils back down to the culture of entitlement, though.<br />These women believe they are ENTITLED to a man's attention, to his time, to his money. So they're shocked when they hear he wants something in return.<br />It's like a man buying a woman drinks: she's ENTITLED to the drinks, and is horrified when he suggests sex, or even that it's her turn to buy him one.<br />Or, in other words: women deserve everything they want and to obtain it effortlessly, because women; men deserve nothing they want, even if they work for it, because men.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06085509311014335433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-78971836595573041822014-02-28T02:42:15.524-08:002014-02-28T02:42:15.524-08:00Captain, honestly, I think you're missing the ...Captain, honestly, I think you're missing the point the author of that article makes. I suspect the way you were tipped of the article predisposed you towards it.<br /><br />The author isn't complaining about the fact that men try to get sex from the women they're dancing with, or even how that's their whole purpose. What she's complaining about is how they go about it, which is the very darkest, most ruthless, deceptive and manipulative underside of Game.<br /><br />Since you insisted on putting it in economic terms, I'll do so too. You speak of the whole affair as something happening on a commercial exchange. But, if what the author describes is a true description of the state of the dancing scene, it's an exchange on which scamming and false advertising takes place. Pretty much all economists (as in, everyone except a few who are extreme even by Austrian standards) agree that (1) There is such a thing as market failure, and that (2) Asymmetry of information is a significant cause of it. <br /><br />No economist with any significant influence or following is actually advocating that false advertising has a positive effect on the functionality of markets, or be legalized. But on the sexual marketplace such advertising is so endemic to be considered an established part of the game. Even more so with capital-G Game, which for most of its practicioners (especially the Roissyites) is about, as (I think) Zippy put it, triggering the instinctive responses in women that makes them subconsciously perceive the player as alpha, even though the player himself might be an omega in the actual ecological sense of the Greek letters.<br /><br />And the analogy with gravity is just absurd. Gravity is a law of nature. That men have sexual urges is a law of nature. That a man acts on those urges is not a law of nature, it is a conscious choice by a conscious agent.Red Knightnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-8071835667732977522014-02-27T17:31:31.309-08:002014-02-27T17:31:31.309-08:00Also, someday you'll be old. If you are a goo...Also, someday you'll be old. If you are a good dancer, you'll get the time of day from young attractive women...as long as you understand the situation, i.e., you are a prop. Or you're safe.JKBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-25952036554238240732014-02-27T11:33:39.946-08:002014-02-27T11:33:39.946-08:00In the late 80's in Boulder, CO I knew a guy w...In the late 80's in Boulder, CO I knew a guy who was into Jazzercise. Jazzercise was one of those exercise fads like Palates or Zumba is today. It was an all-female activity, and had a fashion all its own with bunched up leggings, spandex suits and bright sweat bans.<br />So I figured this guy was surely gay. But, I would see him all the time with these knock-out babes on his arm. I came to the realization that this guy (who was not handsome, rich, or drove a cool car) was getting laid constantly by some of the foxiest chicks in Boulder. All he had to do was go to these jazzercise classes and pay attention to and listen to the girls. <br />While I saw the wisdom in this stratagem, I could never see myself participating in an exercise group designed for women. A cooking class was an option for me though. Part of the wooing of my Japanese wife was taking a Sushi class with her and her mom, and paying close attention her heritage and listening to her closely while rolling sushi and cutting sashimi. It worked.<br />Celtic Tiger dadnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-38146363936473111322014-02-27T08:50:52.201-08:002014-02-27T08:50:52.201-08:00I always have a distaste for taking up an activity...I always have a distaste for taking up an activity solely for the idea of meeting girls just for sex. I seen the "everything we do is to get sex", this doesn't mean every other reason is untrue. Because there is a difference between doing an activity one enjoys versus an activity one hates but likes its rewards. <br /><br />It is this mental issue that stop me from doing more ballroom/salsa. If I'm just doing it for the girls, it is tool-ish and by what you seem to be saying - doesn't work (anymore at least).<br /><br />But, I'm returning again to salsa. I have no girl to reward nor in position of such a girl gaining that reward, but I'm still going back. Regardless if I'm just trying to meet more girls or whatever. I look back in 2013 and earlier years and thought about how much more advanced I could be by now. Standing still to not be a fool is unproductive paralysis. <br /><br />Then there is also those rare and but still re-occurring moments where somehow I get into a situation where if I knew salsa/ballroom the moment would have went much better for me. <br /><br />So I'm taking up salsa again. I might be conflicted that my real motivation maybe just to go after girls, but choosing against it have not really helped me the last 3.5 years. So this way at least I keep picking up and learning stuff regardless of my motivation.Dreamernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-25250237984853452882014-02-27T08:47:10.642-08:002014-02-27T08:47:10.642-08:00Off topic:
World largest bitcoin exchanged hacked...Off topic:<br /><br />World largest bitcoin exchanged hacked, and shut down when the discover the "coins" are gone:<br /><br />http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-bitcoin-collapse-20140226,0,5968430.story#axzz2uRwNfmYx<br /><br />Bitcoins "belong" to whoever has the key to a given coin. Cryptographic keys can be stolen electronically, and can't be recovered from the thief in real life.<br /><br />Electronic credit fraud CAN be backed out, if you do it fast enough for the thieves to not convert stolen funds into goods.Kristophrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08370888276707569365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-69553422083993382642014-02-27T08:39:50.678-08:002014-02-27T08:39:50.678-08:00i agree with this overall, years ago i learned to ...i agree with this overall, years ago i learned to dance and it was to make an impression on women; but i dont use it for sex. todays culture of feminism, tatoos and peircings has turned me off wanting sex. if i date a woman today and dont get sex from her anytime soon, it doesnt matter to me and if i'm really needing sex(which has yet to win over cigars and good beer in 5 yrs now); i know where the easy women are in my town.leeholsennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-70111865869240943012014-02-27T08:18:39.749-08:002014-02-27T08:18:39.749-08:00That's funny Captain. I had similar experience...That's funny Captain. I had similar experiences during the dance craze. The salsa essay could be titled "Women Hurt Most by Insincere Dance Enthusiasts"Uncle Elmernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-6201501044407979872014-02-27T08:10:37.934-08:002014-02-27T08:10:37.934-08:00"all for S's and G's"
I see you..."all for S's and G's"<br /><br />I see your "No cursing" goal extends to the written word. <br /><br />"If you don't like this you might as well get angry at things like "The Law of Gravity" or the fact that fire is hot."<br /><br />Or as Robinson Jeffers wrote, Be Angry At The Sun http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/be-angry-at-the-sun/ <br /><br /><i>That public men publish falsehoods<br />Is nothing new. That America must accept<br />Like the historical republics corruption and empire<br />Has been known for years.<br /><br />Be angry at the sun for setting<br />If these things anger you. Watch the wheel slope and turn,<br />They are all bound on the wheel, these people, those warriors.<br />This republic, Europe, Asia.<br /><br />Observe them gesticulating,<br />Observe them going down. The gang serves lies, the passionate<br />Man plays his part; the cold passion for truth<br />Hunts in no pack.<br /><br />You are not Catullus, you know,<br />To lampoon these crude sketches of Caesar. You are far<br />From Dante's feet, but even farther from his dirty<br />Political hatreds.<br /><br />Let boys want pleasure, and men<br />Struggle for power, and women perhaps for fame,<br />And the servile to serve a Leader and the dupes to be duped.<br />Yours is not theirs.</i>Torgonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-51258710788319344122014-02-27T07:59:37.333-08:002014-02-27T07:59:37.333-08:00Hey, if their attention strokes are the same as ou...Hey, if their attention strokes are the same as our... um, other strokes, and they can collect them in public and from one and all, any pick-up that goes on is a distant 2nd place when it comes to emotional satisfaction. So go for it. They just hate that you're getting anything at all out of it.Peregrine Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03511962495322344119noreply@blogger.com