tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post4042931192326993685..comments2024-03-25T15:17:04.488-07:00Comments on Captain Capitalism: Please Stop Begging for Higher Rates of ReturnCaptain Capitalismhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05620212946121617985noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-23004253017459982972014-10-23T19:25:36.711-07:002014-10-23T19:25:36.711-07:00Timberland:One of the few ways you can make double...Timberland:One of the few ways you can make double on what you paid in under 5 years. That said, to make the highest returns you need to be like me: in the industry -in a hands on capacity - on a daily basis. If you have to hire a manager ( forester) to do it all for you you can expect to kiss 25-30% of that profit goodbye.If you choose to go it alone and have no industry experience on the ground level - expect to get fucked and hard. Its a ruthless dog eat dog industry that weeds out the naive, weak and stupid very, very fast. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-61002724185383322502014-10-20T08:18:00.313-07:002014-10-20T08:18:00.313-07:00All capital gains are in the end speculation. You ...All capital gains are in the end speculation. You should not have to sell your piece of a business to get cash flow out of it. However, that is not how our system works. Too bad if you want a stock for cash flow. There is always going to be someone who outbids you in order to speculate on rising prices. H mannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-41565318854413349372014-10-18T18:32:05.058-07:002014-10-18T18:32:05.058-07:00Returns matter when you're pinching every penn...Returns matter when you're pinching every penny out of your speculation before you dump it.<br /><br />Long-term investments that are generating income from services as well as capital gains aren't speculations, they're proper investments.<br /><br />When I hear someone whinging about how they're not getting an ideal percentage rate out of their speculations, I think of ways to help add a minus sign in front of that percentage rate ...<br /><br />Then I speculate briefly, but accordingly.<br />Jonesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-8756629795523808192014-10-18T18:27:16.614-07:002014-10-18T18:27:16.614-07:00Capn, the reason why it is proper to use earnings ...Capn, the reason why it is proper to use earnings rather than dividends is because earnings that are not paid out in dividends or buybacks are reinvested. They increase the actual wealth of the company, and (given a constant ROI on invested capital on the balance sheet) thus give more future dividends.<br /><br />So yeah, while the "interest" on stocks might just be 2-3%, the principal grows too, unlike for interest-bearing securities like bonds. And that's fundamental value, based on actual capacity for future profit generation.<br /><br />-Red KnightAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-91389577010681701902014-10-18T12:34:28.439-07:002014-10-18T12:34:28.439-07:00Captain Capitalism neglected to mention that ownin...Captain Capitalism neglected to mention that owning your own business, when it is done right, averages a yearly return of 30%, that's even better than the advertised 10% return for stocks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-68222720214041742942014-10-17T03:43:26.009-07:002014-10-17T03:43:26.009-07:00This is caused by the neokeynesian scum.This is caused by the neokeynesian scum.just some guynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-33474720143554493852014-10-16T19:41:20.995-07:002014-10-16T19:41:20.995-07:00Rate of return means nothing without factoring in ...Rate of return means nothing without factoring in the rate of inflation.Dance...dance to the radiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16688681743093469863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-66101976437589421432014-10-16T18:25:40.711-07:002014-10-16T18:25:40.711-07:00You are going too far and too deep in your analysi...You are going too far and too deep in your analysis.<br /><br />Dividends is not what gives stocks their stock price value. What gives them their value is the pool of suckers willing to pay the price for those stocks.<br /><br />Unless the dividend is extremely high with respect to the stock price, such as 25%, 50% then even at 5%, 10% this is still a sucker's market.<br /><br />And a high dividend is not normal and you could buy a stock at a price that pays a high dividend only to see the company stop paying such a high dividend and the stock price falls and you end up loosing big.<br /><br />Again, SUCKERS are what gives stocks their value, SUCKERS are what gives fiat currency it's value and SUCKERS are why bosses and HR have the upper hand.<br /><br />Without SUCKERS, capitalism would collapse.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-3718679637488906922014-10-16T18:16:47.969-07:002014-10-16T18:16:47.969-07:00"I strongly recommend you plan on working til..."I strongly recommend you plan on working till you're 75."<br /><br />I prefer your Smith & Wesson early retirement plan.<br /><br />If you plan on dying young, you don't need to worry about saving enough for your retirement and therefore you can tell employers to go fuck themselves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-59614329371906205702014-10-16T17:15:32.365-07:002014-10-16T17:15:32.365-07:00Could you clarify that chart? Is this the dividen...Could you clarify that chart? Is this the dividend yield of the DJIA, S&P500, all stocks, etc.?Grizzlynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-25366202736532908342014-10-16T10:55:24.429-07:002014-10-16T10:55:24.429-07:00The flood of money into the system has contributed...The flood of money into the system has contributed to the low return rate for some investments.<br />Some scarcity of money will lead us back to 10% CD rates we saw in the late 80's. (Maybe)Pillar Of Autumnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08468782203695519941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-19867564721647993242014-10-16T10:48:29.727-07:002014-10-16T10:48:29.727-07:00Actually is the other way around I am afraid. Lowe...Actually is the other way around I am afraid. Lower rates of return would ENCOURAGE investing in NEW businesses with the hope that a new business can generate more sells/revenue/profits/dividends than an old business. An old business may offer limited growth of their dividends because as businesses grow they have a harder time to expand, whereas a new business has much higher potential for growth. So bottom line, regardless of the interest rates, a new business can always be more appealing - since unlike an "old" business it offers a chance to capitalize on growth. This is where the profit ultimately comes from.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-46099376834402477582014-10-16T10:11:34.737-07:002014-10-16T10:11:34.737-07:00Don't forget the 'welfare' also includ...Don't forget the 'welfare' also includes military spending and corporate cronyism. Go find the list of the top 10 to 25 defense contractors, their number of employees, and the number of offshoot business of that and think about it for a while. <br /><br />Welfare is not only those in public housing or receiving other assistance.sth_txsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-18337898512151006102014-10-16T09:07:16.425-07:002014-10-16T09:07:16.425-07:00The low rate of returns is discouraging people fro...The low rate of returns is discouraging people from investing in new businesses that would increase economic growth. It's being used for current consumption instead. A lot of money is also being siphoned off by the government into an unproductive welfare state. This is going to lead to people becoming poorer in the future which will put even more strains on the welfare state. The last chance to stop this was probably the Reagan era when books like "Losing Ground" were pointing out that the welfare state increased poverty. That last ditch effort failed. Neither of the Bushes were going to reverse anything and now we're stuck with Obama who doesn't have a clue how an economy runs.Marknoreply@blogger.com