tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post5345431439372120731..comments2024-03-25T15:17:04.488-07:00Comments on Captain Capitalism: Done With the Foul Mouthed Langauge Against WomenCaptain Capitalismhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05620212946121617985noreply@blogger.comBlogger51125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-35276800387099096792015-07-05T01:40:51.214-07:002015-07-05T01:40:51.214-07:00The main point is that some women were aggressiveThe main point is that some women were aggressiveDiono Rainierhttp://www.dionorainiercarseat.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-8316866220254616192013-08-24T12:51:32.973-07:002013-08-24T12:51:32.973-07:00"Actually, C&S is taking things out of co..."Actually, C&S is taking things out of context and evading, so there's no point in continuing to address him/her."<br /><br />Evading what?<br /><br />I'm explaining to you that there are American citizens who simply do not follow politics or these issues at all.<br /><br />If they qualify for something that can help them, they will utilize it. There is no discussion or head wrangling over it.<br /><br />The people I'm referring to are not even registered to vote.<br /><br />They simply have no dog in this fight.Self Managementnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-35595541857887996712013-08-23T11:05:36.500-07:002013-08-23T11:05:36.500-07:00P.Z., there you go again being a beta universalist...P.Z., there you go again being a beta universalist. Your the one arguing out of context. Your moral system has no hope of working because it has no hope of cohesion under the least amount of opportunistic exploitation. There is not way to make progressively higher pockets of universal quality (i.e. culture) without force. There is no way to progress without differentiation and discrimination. Nature recycles the weak forms into the strong forms: not your decision on how this works. You attach your hopes to every last wretch and then tell me you leave me to my fate. Your mind is hopelessly the property of others, and they will NOT take good care of you in the end. And I will be glad for the elbow room.'Reality' Doughttp://realitydoug.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-61588807759802881612013-08-23T06:57:58.088-07:002013-08-23T06:57:58.088-07:00Reality D -
Actually, C&S is taking things ou...Reality D -<br /><br />Actually, C&S is taking things out of context and evading, so there's no point in continuing to address him/her.<br /><br />As for your statements, you're conflating rights with power, specifically coercion, which are opposite concepts. It also appears by your words that you're attempting to extract an "ought" from an "is." <br /><br />"Rights" are simply the description we give to conditions necessary for a being that survives through the application of reason to continue to do so in a social context. They're not necessary to a man's survival in a solitary state; reason, particularly as it relates to production, is still necessary. When other people are present, rights, specifically negative rights, come into play, all of which essentially boil down to a prohibition on the use of force as a primary means of dealing with other people, in the absence of which it becomes practically impossible to produce. It sets the basis for a justifiable <i>retaliatory</i> use of force, in short to bring about justice and restitution. What you are describing is coercion as the primary social interaction, which is the abandonment of reason; reason is the trait that separates humans from animals, so your take on these matters reduces us to mere animals in a state of constant warfare. In such a state, production becomes impossible and ultimately even the mightiest starve. Your view of things then is at best a temporary, myopic observation of what appears to be the "benefit" of aggression, historically situated in a moment of abundance only made possible by a period of an opposite to this state of affairs, which you've hastily concluded is a sustainable constant. If that is how you see things, I and many others will be happy to leave you to it, with all of the consequences that will follow.Paul E. Zimmermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04480215501034566588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-86463110944213886442013-08-22T13:43:02.963-07:002013-08-22T13:43:02.963-07:00P. Zimmerman, what I think you are missing, and wh...P. Zimmerman, what I think you are missing, and what I think C&SM is essentially saying to you, is that your morality is BS.<br /><br />THERE IS NO SPOON!<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaJPNrf1DPY<br /><br />To wit, your tacit code of morality is NOT universal. Might makes right is universal. Rights are default privileges, but privileges must be earned, ultimately by conquest. White privilege was earned. White men have been conquered by abstract means psychological and economic. Once you understand that, you can straighten yourself out and see straight, but you will not see a spoon. That's impossible.<br /><br />What you lack, P.Z., is situational awareness. There is a war on for our minds, and you have lost yours.'Reality' Doughttp://realitydoug.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-86146670498017826302013-08-22T12:06:40.149-07:002013-08-22T12:06:40.149-07:00"if they imagine that what they are given is ..."if they imagine that what they are given is justifiably taken from other people."<br /><br />Paul, they don't "imagine" anything about it. Its available, they quality, they get it.<br /><br />There is no discussion, no theorizing, no imagining. <br /><br />When its not available and when they don't qualify, then they don't get it.<br /><br />They don't feel they are "owed" or seek to justify it or anything.<br /><br />They don't have an entitlement complex about it. They have no complex about it at all.<br /><br />It simply is.... or is not.<br /><br /><br /><br />Jones,<br />"The cognitive shortcut is that "all women are like that", provided they're put in situations that allow it"<br /><br />- Yes and the corallary is "all men are rapists, provided they're put in situations that allow it.<br /><br />Who believes that?Cultural and Self Managementnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-82069261806794919952013-08-21T21:54:25.073-07:002013-08-21T21:54:25.073-07:00C&S Management -
That completely misses the p...C&S Management -<br /><br />That completely misses the point. It's a matter of being for a welfare state funded via coercion, in which case you do not have a moral claim to the proceeds of it, versus objecting to the theft - from you and everyone else around you - for which justice demands that you receive restitution. The inclinations of the people you've described are secondary to that premise. If they are pursuing constructive ends with what they receive, great! That's the hoped for outcome. However, none of that matters, morally speaking, if they imagine that what they are given is justifiably taken from other people. If so, then they are nothing more than muggers by proxy. Paul E. Zimmermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04480215501034566588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-61366474502611771862013-08-21T19:39:17.572-07:002013-08-21T19:39:17.572-07:00Cappy --
What that one woman did, the rest of her...Cappy --<br /><br />What that one woman did, the rest of her krewe tolerated, giggling while she behaved badly.<br /><br />The cognitive shortcut is that "all women are like that", provided they're put in situations that allow it. Of course, a cognitive shortcut is what it is: a way to dispense with further thought on the matter.<br /><br />However, when so much bad behaviour is tolerated, these cognitive shortcuts might seem like they're true.<br /><br />You may be done with "foul-mouthed" language against women in the abstract, but I assure you, badly behaved women in concrete situations are far from done with you.<br /><br />Actions truly do speak louder than words.<br /><br />You shall know the people by the worst they allow.<br /><br />It's not a great distance from knowing the people by how they treat their prisoners, dissidents, hack writers on blogs, and so forth ...<br /><br />But don't take my word for it. Give Theodore Dalrymple a read, especially when it comes to his writings about the British underclass.<br /><br />I say that it is fair game to treat someone who aligns with the behaviour of the underclass like one of the underclass. If that's "allowed" behaviour, I also say it's fair game to regard the society, local or otherwise, as supporting the underclass and to deal with them as a mass entity in an appropriate way.<br /><br />"Lumping them together" works very well when you're expecting the worst of behaviour and often observe it. You might appreciate how easily the inference jump can be made to other things, even if the inference jump isn't entirely appropriate.<br /><br />The exceptions are often exceptional, and you may deal with them as better expectations merit.<br /><br />Lower your expectations for behaviour on the whole -- you'll enjoy your decline a lot more when you're not expecting much from below-average social encounters ...<br /><br />Jonesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-53930459072933868692013-08-21T15:50:30.690-07:002013-08-21T15:50:30.690-07:003. Anonymous & another Anonymous:
"Women...3. Anonymous & another Anonymous:<br /><br />"Women do want a nice guy, it just depends on how you define nice. Nice = assertive, confident, caring and willing to listen.<br />They don't want to be ruled, but they do want a sensible and considerate leader and if men abdicate that role, they will fill it to the best of their ability."<br /><br />"You seem to be contradicting yourself. If you are willing to be led you are ruled. You obey his commands. And attraction depends on the capacity of violence on the part of the man."<br /><br />- By "leader" what is meant is one who can lead himself and take full responsibility for every area of his own life.<br /><br />There are many men and women out there who are functioning on the levels of boys and girls, no more advanced than teenagers.<br /><br />Sure, he may have a "job" but is he budgeting himself efficiently?<br /><br />Is he taking responsibility for his own health by researching the ingredients in the products he buys and cooking his own meals?<br /><br />Is his living environment hygenically clean and orderly?<br /><br />Is he managing and channeling his emotions in a healthy, positive way?<br /><br />Is he allocated his time wisely?<br /><br />If a grown man is significantly deficient in one of these areas, that is when you will hear women say, "I just wish he would man up and lead".<br /><br />That means, "I just wish he would man up and lead - HIMSELF".Cultural and Self Managementnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-39230015318535232962013-08-21T15:43:34.335-07:002013-08-21T15:43:34.335-07:002. Paul Zimmerman;
"Reference Ayn Rand's ...2. Paul Zimmerman;<br />"Reference Ayn Rand's Objectivist Newsletter, June 1966, "The Question of Scholarships." I don't know if this is a source that Cappy draws on, but there's an answer for you. It's about restitution. Alternatively, it's a useful weapon for destroying a corrupt and evil entity. That said entity created the weapon does not matter - use the tools you have."<br /><br />- Right. Well ALL the people I know who utilize either EBT or Section 8 housing are completely against a "corrupt and evil entitiy". They swim against the tide of our materialistic mainstream American culture. What to speak of watch, they don't even buy TVs. They don't wear makeup or expensive clothing, don't get their nails done, don't drink alcohol or hang out in bars, use EBT to buy healthy non-gmo organic produce and often seeds to plant and grow their own food, have a daily cognitive practice such as meditation, etc, etc, etc. <br /><br />Even the outdated stereotype of the "welfare queen living in the projects".... if anyone here has ever known such types, and I have intimately, then you know they have a deep distrust of the US government. They are the ones that taught me, many years ago in my childhood, about the racist, eugenics agenda of Margaret Sanger's Planned Parenthood, and many, many other things that the very mainstream American culture following "Manosphere" and eve so called "alternative news media" thinks it just discovered last year. <br />Cultural and Self Managementnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-54819233427584447122013-08-21T15:42:36.227-07:002013-08-21T15:42:36.227-07:00Long comment following. I will have to break it u...Long comment following. I will have to break it up into 3 consecutive comments because of character limit.<br /><br />I'll be addressing Doug, Zimmerman and a few Anons.<br /><br />1. Reality Doug: <br />" By ending men's groups as 'sexist', women have prevented regular men from organizing politically, from having political power."<br /><br />- I've always wondered why some women have sought to gain entrance into all male spaces, like clubs, for instance, when women have always had their all female spaces such as their own clubs and groups. <br /><br />Of course there has always been mixed-gender spaces as well, the family being the most ancient and prominant, but there is nothing wrong in maintaining some gender segregated social venues either.<br /><br />I also disagree that women should be trying to change mainstream religions into more "female friendly" spaces. What women should have been doing all this time is walking away from mainstream religions and creating their own. Some of these religions could be co-ed, welcoming any men who wanted to participate, while some could be exclusively for female membership only. <br /><br />In a coupling the husband can have his all male religion that he participates in, and the wife her all female religion. If they have children then the child can participate in either one until they "come of age" and then if they so choose, join the one that matches his or her gender, or join a co-ed religion, or create his or her own religion, or chuck religion out altogether. <br /><br />There, all bases covered.<br /><br />I have lived in cultures where husbands and wives, unlike the West, do not seek to get all of their emotional needs from their spouses. Even the family gender segregates to some extent and the men get a lot of their needs for affection and companionship from their male relatives and friends and the women get many of those same needs met from their female relatives and friends.<br /><br />These are the same cultures where it is not a source of shame for heterosexual men to be seen showing physical affection to each other in public, such as hold hands. <br /><br />My opinion is that Western marriages fail so miserably because husbands and wives seek to get all their needs met from their spouse. So a spouse is expected to be everything from a lover to a counselor to a best friend to a parental figure and basically the source of all of our intellectual, emotional and spiritual needs (on top of financial, domestic and sexual!)<br /><br />This is a tall order for anyone to fulfill. <br /><br />AYN RAND and Objectivism certainly promotes the "romantic reltionship" as the highest and I disagree with that emphatically and say its the reason why so many "romantic relationships" fail in the West.<br /><br />I say that men and women should expect to get some of their intellectual, emotional and spiritual needs met in gender segregated spaces and not expect their spouses to completely fulfill all these needs.Cultural and Self Managementnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-28593309209826711282013-08-21T01:13:23.374-07:002013-08-21T01:13:23.374-07:00Anonymous @ 5:28 A.M.
I am sorry I don't have...Anonymous @ 5:28 A.M.<br /><br />I am sorry I don't have any easy answers for you. I suppose it takes time and some quiet observation. A few things I would look at are whether or not she goes along with male bashing jokes in her environment or objects to such hate speech, if she encourages your masculine pursuits and your "guy time" without interference, does she bother you about such nonsense as the position of the toilet seat when you're done (I always thought that was particularly stupid, sine all you guys are doing is avoiding peeing on the seat - which is considerate!). What are her political leanings, does she walk the talk come what may or is she going PC to make nice with the trolls? Is she kind and welcoming to your friends and does she encourage you to take the lead? A lot of us will take the lead if you fail to do so because stuff has got to get done, but not surprisingly, very few of us are excelling or happy about it. What about you? How do we know when we're dealing with a man who hasn't sold us out? I've often wondered if men who say they want an "independent" woman just mean they want her to do double duty so they can easily abdicate the responsibilities of manhood. Aurini made some excellent points not too long ago when he placed the responsibility for the rise of feminism squarely on the shoulders of men who have allowed or initially even caused it to happen. But that's another conversation for another time....Carahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04036130786235588675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-80354215096222305812013-08-21T00:02:10.655-07:002013-08-21T00:02:10.655-07:00The best way to kill a bad idea is to implement it...The best way to kill a bad idea is to implement it -- as quickly and thoroughly and with as much fanfare as possible.<br />- The Book of Zed, pg 603Martian Bachelornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-85802934442450014762013-08-20T15:58:19.614-07:002013-08-20T15:58:19.614-07:00"
Women do want a nice guy, it just depends o..."<br />Women do want a nice guy, it just depends on how you define nice. Nice = assertive, confident, caring and willing to listen.<br />They don't want to be ruled, but they do want a sensible and considerate leader and if men abdicate that role, they will fill it to the best of their ability."<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />You seem to be contradicting yourself. If you are willing to be led you are ruled. You obey his commands. And attraction depends on the capacity of violence on the part of the man.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-22733702867054805082013-08-20T12:10:33.741-07:002013-08-20T12:10:33.741-07:00Reality Doug said: " Women don't want a n...Reality Doug said: " Women don't want a nice guy. They don't exactly want an asshole either. They want to be conquered by masculinity that can rule them well."<br /><br />Women do want a nice guy, it just depends on how you define nice. Nice = assertive, confident, caring and willing to listen.<br />They don't want to be ruled, but they do want a sensible and considerate leader and if men abdicate that role, they will fill it to the best of their ability.<br /><br />My two cents. Not that they're worth much in this economy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-22558215513688442292013-08-20T05:28:09.247-07:002013-08-20T05:28:09.247-07:00Cara @ 7:35 PM - You said, "The manosphere is...Cara @ 7:35 PM - You said, "The manosphere is a very necessary backlash against feminism, but we are not all the enemy."<br /><br />OK. As a man who can neither read minds nor look into someone's heart and see what is there, how can I differentiate the women who are the enemy from those who or not. Sometimes it's obvious. (read Andrea Dworkin) More often, it is not obvious.<br /><br />Your suggestions are welcome.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-30879226856216275542013-08-19T14:54:34.085-07:002013-08-19T14:54:34.085-07:00Joshua and all people on various Red Pill/MGTOW Fo...Joshua and all people on various Red Pill/MGTOW Forums etc.<br /><br />All of your presumptions and speculations are 100% wrong. And I say that not as opinion, but fact. Every one of your speculations about me just getting new play, going soft, etc. are factually wrong.<br /><br />Go back to the drawing board and figure it out.<br /><br />Cpt.Captain Capitalismhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05620212946121617985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-2827348554670373052013-08-19T13:27:09.958-07:002013-08-19T13:27:09.958-07:00Are you not gonna tell us who your new hottie is?Are you not gonna tell us who your new hottie is?Joshuanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-62372881934880965322013-08-19T09:04:35.534-07:002013-08-19T09:04:35.534-07:00So, NAWALT, but according to your own book, AWWALT...So, NAWALT, but according to your own book, AWWALT? (All wyoming women are like that?)<br /><br />I love the smell of hypocrisy in the morning!<br /><br />I was at the bar watching a Vikings game with my dad last year, and at a table across the room a slightly overweight balding guy was wearing an Adrian Peterson jersey. My dad said, "Look at that guy. What a loser. Only losers wear football jerseys of their favorite players."<br /><br />I said, "I'm done ripping on men. Especially men I don't even know. This is probably the only time he's really happy. If he's happy wearing a jersey and cheering for his team, because the rest of his life sucks, good for him. Men get shit on all the time and I'm not going to add to it."<br /><br />We all bring something to the table - and I would like to think it is a round table. In all areas of the manosphere, it appears as though that round table is turning into a circular firing squad.<br /><br />Because that's what men do. We kill each other. Apparently, AMALT.<br /><br />Taking the red pill for me is like going through the stages of grieving, one of which is anger. Run your site how you want, but anger is one of the natural stages of awakening, and excising it from your site is cutting out a large swath of people you are trying to help.<br /><br />Ready! Aim! Fire!Donttreadonmattnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-48972365605737606412013-08-18T21:03:43.654-07:002013-08-18T21:03:43.654-07:00Apologies if this posts twice. The captcha decided...Apologies if this posts twice. The captcha decided to take a shit...<br /><br />Anon: 'John the Capitalist:<br />"Over the past year or so its been people who are lazy and live off the govt are the dregs of society except when you do it yourself then its ok"<br /><br />... This is strange and I've asked him about it but haven't received a reply.'<br /><br />Reference Ayn Rand's Objectivist Newsletter, June 1966, "The Question of Scholarships." I don't know if this is a source that Cappy draws on, but there's an answer for you. It's about restitution. Alternatively, it's a useful weapon for destroying a corrupt and evil entity. That said entity created the weapon does not matter - use the tools you have.Paul E. Zimmermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04480215501034566588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-46669965765618757592013-08-18T20:44:33.529-07:002013-08-18T20:44:33.529-07:00@ 'Reality' Doug and the anonymous lump th...@ 'Reality' Doug and the anonymous lump that called me a moron with barely literate grammar<br /><br />As if calling a female commenter as a feminist troll that can't think logically by default is not shaming...<br /><br />My point is that you seem to assume that a man cannot be an alpha if he rightfully defends the women that merit it. <br /><br />But I won't bother arguing with you further--if it's anything I've learned, it's that commenters like you will follow your feeeeelings and yell hamster over and over at female commenters like me without any proof.<br /><br />Bitterness doesn't get you lust, cupcakes.<br /><br />And no, I'm not a feminist. So quit your assumptions.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15015813968815899538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-42911387448298677212013-08-18T20:11:00.279-07:002013-08-18T20:11:00.279-07:00When I first read posts on the Manosphere, I was r...When I first read posts on the Manosphere, I was really taken aback by the language and the hostility. Over time I realized there was a reason for the anger, and that venting is a function of releasing it - and also of warning others of potential landmines. <br /><br />At this point if people online call me names - and, honestly, it's more women than men, at this point - it's says more about them than it says about me, at least to my thinking. And, really, what does it matter who someone who never has and never will meet me thinks of the part of me that has been revealed on my blog? I used to worry about getting another job in my (very liberal) field, but now I have a job with a good boss, and what the heck, you know?<br /><br />Blogging for me was - for awhile - a great way to release a significant amount of frustration that I'd been building up and holding in. Who am I to deny that to someone else? <br /><br />What I do think is sad is the lack of respect men and women have for each other as groups. There's so much hostility and competition now. Maybe it's always been that way, but I don't think so. <br /><br />I believe there is a part of many or most men that really needs to believe that women are good. And when men become disillusioned about this, they get angry. The "mangina" "white knight" accusations that fly about seem to ignore this - that if men were not predisposed to believe in, aid, and protect women, civilization, in any form, would not exist. So these conversations are essentially two warring instincts - the instinct to protect and aid your brother/yourself and the instinct to believe in and help women. Even when you've been bitterly disillusioned it's a challenge to resolve the two.grerphttp://grerp.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-87969056584476050222013-08-18T15:29:05.959-07:002013-08-18T15:29:05.959-07:00you wrote this post just for me, didn't you ca...you wrote this post just for me, didn't you cap?patriarchal landminehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06099811875832338022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-61661381173178142522013-08-18T15:17:31.614-07:002013-08-18T15:17:31.614-07:00@Lone wolf: "I'm much happier staying hom...@Lone wolf: "I'm much happier staying home, entertaining the dogs and trying to reach the next skill level in Skyrim."<br /><br />And I'm sure everyone else is much happier with you staying at home, entertaining the dogs, and trying to reach the highest level of Skyrim you can reach, also. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-74116087432452921652013-08-18T12:51:16.695-07:002013-08-18T12:51:16.695-07:00Correction: Bilderberg *2008*
Dot 1: https://www....Correction: Bilderberg *2008*<br /><br />Dot 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE-B5eJ24Xw<br /><br />Dot 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIPik872K64<br /><br />Dot 3: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_Group#Recent_meetings<br /><br />Dot 4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUCoKWbqoLU<br /><br />Dot 5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOIT-16sjjI<br /><br />Connect the dots.'Reality' Doughttp://realitydoug.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.com