tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post6160531550077577453..comments2024-03-25T15:17:04.488-07:00Comments on Captain Capitalism: What Gives Humans Value?Captain Capitalismhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05620212946121617985noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-80805392992404037392020-05-24T06:12:54.879-07:002020-05-24T06:12:54.879-07:00Just to add to my above comment then, what we have...Just to add to my above comment then, what we have with Millenial ideology in regards individual value, is this. What they seem to be claiming is that self esteem is inherent and therefore you don't need to do anything to keep it. This is totally false!!! Having a sense of your basic sense of self may have in and of itself, a sense of a good feeling...but the problem is, such is not static. For such is merely the start point of our choices in the world. And such choices either increases our self esteem, or undermines it.<br /><br />for example, children, we are all born with the innocent inherent good feeling, nature/basic self. And if this is built upon by getting our needs met then that is all good and well But if it's the case that we didn't have our needs met...(especially our mental and emotional needs), then we are going to have beliefs that are not going to be very healthy. Such beliefs will be irrational in some form or another. In terms of our self-esteem, we will probably not like ourselves very much. So in order to align ourselves with reality then, we would need to root such beliefs out and meet our own needs as a adult, in order to feel genuine self-esteem!<br /><br />What creates genuine self-esteem then, is productive choices. In other words, being competent based on what is needed or required of each situation we find ourselves in on our pathways in life. Such efficacy in life is based on mentally integrating reality. Such naturally leads to high self-esteem. On the other hand, if we do the opposite, ie, make decisions based upon whims, laziness, what we want to be true (rather than what actually is factual) etc, then the effect of such an approach overall, is low self-esteem. And no amount of lies, affirmations, ("I love myself". I am feeling great"...etc) can possibly create genuine feelings of self-esteem in the long run. For reality ALWAYS reasserts itself. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17975381270425246495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-41273315282501714602020-05-23T11:36:29.584-07:002020-05-23T11:36:29.584-07:00What Gives Humans Value?
Well first of all, we do...What Gives Humans Value?<br /><br />Well first of all, we do have internal value as a human being. This I would argue is what we would call - your basic self. But this is really a description of what is commonly known as, 'a state of being.' And therefore, such is un-measurable. For it is in the sense of objectivity only something that can be experienced (or sensed, might be a better way of putting it). So as such then, in this context, has no measurable value. For it is more in line with being the start point of what constitutes measurable value. And so, it is really a prerequisite for true measurable value.<br /><br />For instance, such is the same in principle as what it means to BE OBJECTIVE in your thinking. For to truly be objective in ones thinking, you must become fully conscious/present....and mentally stand apart from what needs to be considered. In other words, your start point requires that you not be caught up in your head, but stood in a state of pure being. Which mentally speaking, means to be standing at a place of neutrality...or zero.<br /><br />Because, zero is what it means to 'be objective' (notice it is called, 'be objective', not, think objective). This place of intrinsic but un-measurable value then, is the prerequisite for the needed thoughts that you will find...and the thoughts then, are the 'measurable value' in the objective world...(which still may not involve other people but it is still measurable value).<br /><br />So intrinsic value is merely un-measurable value. But it is still a value in this context and is therefore indispensable to measurable value. Certain traits do have value too, but are based on being measured by their usefulness in the world...For example...honesty! Or how about another example, for example my ability to problem solve. An ability, is a skill that once again is the perquisite to my competence in the world and therefore my value to myself and other people. But it is still therefore - of/a value and is therefore still a measure of my value as an individual.<br /><br />Let's take another example of living ALONE on Mars. Let's take the idea that i run upon some problem on Mars that if not solved, will result in me being killed. Now let's say that I objectively work out the solution to this problem and as a result then, I save my own life. This then is just one more example of how I have demonstrated/proven my own value, without any need of anyone else. And so, the irreducible of this subject is this...<br /><br />an individual's value is measured based upon ones OBJECTIVE COMPETENCE/ USEFULNESS and not just measured based upon other people. However, if you are to assert that, your intrinsic/basic self/being - value is equal to someone who has achieved any form of 'objective competence/usefulness' is unequivocally false, because, objective competence/usefulness can ONLY BE ATTAINED by an individuals own EFFORT....and intrinsic value quite simply isn't because it just is. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17975381270425246495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-81584571339533028612020-05-23T11:35:59.694-07:002020-05-23T11:35:59.694-07:00What Gives Humans Value?
Well first of all, we do...What Gives Humans Value?<br /><br />Well first of all, we do have internal value as a human being. This I would argue is what we would call - your basic self. But this is really a description of what is commonly known as, 'a state of being.' And therefore, such is un-measurable. For it is in the sense of objectivity only something that can be experienced (or sensed, might be a better way of putting it). So as such then, in this context, has no measurable value. For it is more in line with being the start point of what constitutes measurable value. And so, it is really a prerequisite for true measurable value.<br /><br />For instance, such is the same in principle as what it means to BE OBJECTIVE in your thinking. For to truly be objective in ones thinking, you must become fully conscious/present....and mentally stand apart from what needs to be considered. In other words, your start point requires that you not be caught up in your head, but stood in a state of pure being. Which mentally speaking, means to be standing at a place of neutrality...or zero.<br /><br />Because, zero is what it means to 'be objective' (notice it is called, 'be objective', not, think objective). This place of intrinsic but un-measurable value then, is the prerequisite for the needed thoughts that you will find...and the thoughts then, are the 'measurable value' in the objective world...(which still may not involve other people but it is still measurable value).<br /><br />So intrinsic value is merely un-measurable value. But it is still a value in this context and is therefore indispensable to measurable value. Certain traits do have value too, but are based on being measured by their usefulness in the world...For example...honesty! Or how about another example, for example my ability to problem solve. An ability, is a skill that once again is the perquisite to my competence in the world and therefore my value to myself and other people. But it is still therefore - of/a value and is therefore still a measure of my value as an individual.<br /><br />Let's take another example of living ALONE on Mars. Let's take the idea that i run upon some problem on Mars that if not solved, will result in me being killed. Now let's say that I objectively work out the solution to this problem and as a result then, I save my own life. This then is just one more example of how I have demonstrated/proven my own value, without any need of anyone else. And so, the irreducible of this subject is this...<br /><br />an individual's value is measured based upon ones OBJECTIVE COMPETENCE/ USEFULNESS and not just measured based upon other people. However, if you are to assert that, your intrinsic/basic self/being - value is equal to someone who has achieved any form of 'objective competence/usefulness' is unequivocally false, because, objective competence/usefulness can ONLY BE ATTAINED by an individuals own EFFORT....and intrinsic value quite simply isn't because it just is. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17975381270425246495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-59144959987952234802020-03-15T16:00:51.809-07:002020-03-15T16:00:51.809-07:00I would argue that survival (whether on mars or in...I would argue that survival (whether on mars or in the Womb) has no value, except to the survivor. It's just a necessary precondition to having value. Paul Thompsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01483039949021232790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-80151057318729331622020-03-15T10:25:51.056-07:002020-03-15T10:25:51.056-07:00This is very Randian, except that you are replacin...This is very Randian, except that you are replacing money with time. I do agree that, in this context, time (attention span) is the measure of all value.kurt9https://www.blogger.com/profile/02101147267959016924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-16751231632443790772020-03-14T15:28:13.246-07:002020-03-14T15:28:13.246-07:00Survival is just not dying. Just as being is havin...Survival is just not dying. Just as being is having been born. Yes on Mars you are an astronaut. But in downtown north america?<br /><br />All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you.<br /><br />Too bad so many abdicate that decisionAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-51493291975355188662020-03-12T19:07:12.384-07:002020-03-12T19:07:12.384-07:00"Without other people to recognize or avail t..."Without other people to recognize or avail themselves of your abilities you have no value. You are technically worthless."<br /><br />Quite the contrary. The test that you survive on Mars in an environment you are unprepared for is itself a testament to your worth. It is called Survival. Fact it is the sole and ultimate test of worth. Without survival there are no great compositions, great souffles, or well balanced children.Tucanae Serviceshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11935170696138248693noreply@blogger.com