tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post6823763872594186097..comments2024-03-25T15:17:04.488-07:00Comments on Captain Capitalism: Die, Night Club Industry, Die!!!Captain Capitalismhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05620212946121617985noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-70991571992138403672015-09-08T05:25:06.878-07:002015-09-08T05:25:06.878-07:00I cannot stand bars or night clubs. I am pretty in...I cannot stand bars or night clubs. I am pretty introverted and I usually try to vacate the grounds. I do well in a classroom setting. My recommendation to guys trying to court American women is to take a night class at the community college. Good ratios.Tony Trucanohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12616436245882095801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-79557691105509146322015-08-27T09:25:14.883-07:002015-08-27T09:25:14.883-07:00Good dance music is a different thing than good mu...Good dance music is a different thing than good music to listen to. Good dance music is highly repetitive because you need time to get your body in time with the music and with the changes, unless you're a very skilled dancer. But that makes it boring to sit there and listen to. This is why a radio mix of a given song will be three minutes long and a club mix of the same song will be ten minutes. Also, dance music needs to be woven around a strong, unwavering beat in a pretty narrow range of possible speeds, and listening music has far more freedom in terms of time, time changes, the primacy of percussion, etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-42380654728121201072015-08-27T05:23:12.800-07:002015-08-27T05:23:12.800-07:00There's something super obvious in this that t...There's something super obvious in this that the Captain and all the other male commenters seem to be missing: There's some reason that women want to go to these things, and it's painfully clear it's not to find guys. The reason is that dancing with lots of people to a driving beat can be extremely fun in itself, including if you flail around like an idiot. You know what it feels like when you're nodding in the car to music that makes you want to move? Bouncing with a crowd is 100 times better.<br /><br />What makes it not fun is that you're trying to pick up girls, and worrying about impressing them. To have fun, you have to work at not giving a fuck what people, especially girls, think. This is super hard for men. It's totally different for girls, they know that if they "dress like street walkers" as the Captain said, the guys will be impressed whether they have moves or not, so they don't have to get over fear in the same way. That, by the way, is why they do it; they want to look good, not pick you up.<br /><br />The reason I know this is that I'm a ju jitsu practictioner who is very large who learned to love dancing exactly by not giving a fuck. And I learned not to give a fuck after some painful marriages, and I kept my distance from women for a while there, and definitely don't want to get my heart broken again; and the kind of woman who would cheat with me would be certain to do that. So now I often take groups of married women friends clubbing; the husbands know me. I have a blast, but when we've picked the wrong club I've had to shoulder some guys off.<br /><br />Different clubs have different atmospheres; some have dancers, and some are meat markets, and some are in between. If you want to have fun, pick an event where you're not allowed to bring drinks on the dance floor (anything where they admit people under the drinking age), and find a space on the floor, and dance like a cross between a drunk Zulu and a drunk Highlander. If you can find some guy friends who aren't too scared of looking gay by going in a group, it'll be even better.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-35497956861498138132015-08-26T08:04:36.653-07:002015-08-26T08:04:36.653-07:00I always told myself, lovelorn family, friends, an...I always told myself, lovelorn family, friends, and children one simple rule: "Do what you have to do (work), do what you love to do (church, hobbies, hang with friends), and along the way you will meet some people worth investing in." That's it. That is where to find your woman or man. Looking anywhere else is like fishing in a rock quarry. Prohibitively bad odds.PD Quighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00454197219107241444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-69199714757878004862015-08-26T05:35:51.597-07:002015-08-26T05:35:51.597-07:00Picking up women at a bar is like buying the dente...Picking up women at a bar is like buying the dented cans at the grocery store.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-28739622569776182622015-08-25T23:57:56.598-07:002015-08-25T23:57:56.598-07:00Millennials are also driving and drinking less, so...Millennials are also driving and drinking less, so that'll affect the club scene.<br /><br />The pick-up artists might have had an effect on clubs. Yes it seems ridiculous that such a small percentage of people could have such an effect, but the real dedicated ones might hit 10 clubs a night. And some of them try cold approaching on streets. (I guess they've never heard the term "opportunity cost".)amcznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-59154388535948942602015-08-25T22:01:50.838-07:002015-08-25T22:01:50.838-07:00Speaking as kind of an unatractive, dorky-looking ...Speaking as kind of an unatractive, dorky-looking guy, I can confirm that nightclubs were torture for me as a young man. I worked hard to look better, I worked out, didn't get fat, but I just have one of those unattractive 'things' going on. Looks are king in the bellowing darkness of those shitpits, if you ain't got it you ain't getting it. I often wondered why the door people kind of treated me like I was trying to break into their house, I mean, they want my money right? So why treat me like they're doing ME a favour taking it? Now I know. <br /><br />Anyway, good post.<br /><br />BTW I got married and I'm happy now, but I sure as hell didn't meet her in a nightclub. Die a death, nightclub industry, I piss on your grave.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-47557771862735521752015-08-25T19:17:55.448-07:002015-08-25T19:17:55.448-07:00I was terrible at nightclubs- I just don't hav...I was terrible at nightclubs- I just don't have the personality to go up to a woman with big hair and a tight dress and get her to leave with me. I was much better at parties- where I could actually talk to a woman and my limited wit would shine through.<br /><br />But the internet was a breakthrough for me. I was able to write decent enough emails to get a phone call, or a meet for drinks- and one on one I'm pretty good.<br /><br />You couldn't pay me to go to a club now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-28332814205230505502015-08-25T18:56:13.786-07:002015-08-25T18:56:13.786-07:00Terenthia, is that why they're always dressed ...Terenthia, is that why they're always dressed like street walkers? Just to "dance and have fun?" If that was the case I'd presume you girls would wear sweats and tennis shoes.Captain Capitalismhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05620212946121617985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-7033002944299903362015-08-25T18:05:57.697-07:002015-08-25T18:05:57.697-07:00The other option is a club with live music. The ba...The other option is a club with live music. The band is something to look at and discuss, you can talk between sets, and the people there are more interested in music and less in getting plastered.David Pittellinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-58994637055260788142015-08-25T18:04:39.783-07:002015-08-25T18:04:39.783-07:00Wow. Ever think that maybe women don't go to ...Wow. Ever think that maybe women don't go to night clubs to get hit on and slobbered over? That we just want to dance with our girlfriends, and are tired of getting groped?<br />If the night clubs got together and all targeted women, charged them for the product they are selling, then it would be obvious--but since the night clubs are trying to get the money out of the men, this is how it works. Don't blame the women, they are just being smart, and getting what they want out of the experience.Terenthiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09545865694737855715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-10683816515178039242015-08-25T16:21:21.683-07:002015-08-25T16:21:21.683-07:00Hard to get my head around the concept of a nightc...Hard to get my head around the concept of a nightclub in the Twin Cities.Micha Elyinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-9505084760327121932015-08-25T15:25:14.979-07:002015-08-25T15:25:14.979-07:00Ummm I hate to tell you this, but the nightclub in...Ummm I hate to tell you this, but the nightclub industry has been going downhill since the 1920s. In the late 20s, there was a street in Kansas city that had 49 live music clubs. <br />I spent two decades working as a musician in nightclubs, starting in my teens, and I have watched with interest as they continued to decline-so I feel I know more than most about the nightclub scene. <br />Many of the nightclubs had shady characters running them or behind the scenes, gangster types, high end drug dealers etc. If you think about it a bit, you will understand why. Nightclubs are a cash business, offering a way to launder money and meet hot babes at the same time. Obviously, non-gangster owners had a tough time competing.<br />Once I got to know the scene a bit, I amused myself by trying to guess which guys would get laid and which ones didn't have a chance. Some of the hot women could be really cruel to the earnest accountant types who asked them to dance etc. They would say things like "Aren't you batting out of your league?" On the other hand, in later years, I knew some of them who would "go commando", and give a flash to the local sports heroes who came in. <br />When I was playing in a good and popular band, I could spot a hot woman, talk to her for a few minutes, and end up taking her home to stay the night. A few weeks later, after the band broke up, I could walk into the same club and not get a sniff. <br />I didn't perceive the loud music as something club owners did to please women though. I saw it more as a macho thing where club owners competed with each other to see who had the hottest system. I continue to believe that women on average, prefer quieter music than men do. But its intriguing to me that the "going commando" move which I mentioned above, only started when the music got too loud to talk over. <br />There are a multitude of reasons that I can see for the demise of nightclubs and live entertainment: - Alternative forms of entertainment, (radio, television and movies, the internet, karaoke) -Liquor is now highly taxed, and there is far less tolerance for impaired driving. -as you point out, the internet hook up culture. <br />I feel some sadness and nostalgia for the entertainment culture we have lost-but what can you do? With the rise of immersive reality entertainment, I see the trend continuing in the future.RedViolinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-54607010465274387402015-08-25T14:14:48.223-07:002015-08-25T14:14:48.223-07:00I can understand the rationale for the night club:...I can understand the rationale for the night club: meeting other people.<br />But I don't understand the logic of bars.<br />Couldn't they go to the liquor store and drink at home. A lot cheaper that way and you don't need to drive home, you are already home.<br /><br />Build your own home bar. A lot cheaper that way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-19921067082223103252015-08-25T13:55:09.556-07:002015-08-25T13:55:09.556-07:00It is perfectly true that if you go to a club or b...It is perfectly true that if you go to a club or bar, you will meet ... the kind of people who go to clubs and bars. Obviously. <br /><br />You only go to a bar for a little amusement WITH a date. Not alone.<br /><br />Women: this goes for you too. Only go into a place like that on a guy's arm. Never alone or with other women. Exactly whom are you trying to meet, anyway? Exactly who do you think is there, and why? <br /><br />Meet somebody another way. <br /><br />Every single thing people experience marks them, and has an influence on what they become. One has to protect one's innocence. There's no "just once" or "just sometimes but I'm not really like that". <br /><br />Clubs are for ogling. It is much better to be the person ogled than the one doing the ogling. So, stay out of clubs. <br /><br />There are places where you will be the one who is ogled. Those often are places where your social power is on exhibit, such as work and school. Not college. Schooling post college. One can take non-degree courses for the rest of one's life. <br /><br />Women, stay out of soft courses. Only study something hard. There will be few women there, and if you are in a skirt, you own the room. A skirt past your knee. Extra credit for a ladylike, not a sport, shoe. No rings. No denim. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-5086390043210221032015-08-25T13:40:55.113-07:002015-08-25T13:40:55.113-07:00Glen, when you say,
"If the divorce stats ar...Glen, when you say,<br /><br />"If the divorce stats are correct 50% of the women out there are unfit for marriage."<br /><br />That's inaccurate. Half of all marriages ending in divorce means the total aggregate of marriages. Among women, there are those who've been divorced repeatedly, and more who have been married just once. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-22189760408195395292015-08-25T13:27:44.744-07:002015-08-25T13:27:44.744-07:00No one has any money. And more and more men are b...No one has any money. And more and more men are beginning to realize that paying for a woman's entertainment is a waste of time. Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11704310519406976468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-60169927235186110672015-08-25T11:21:11.861-07:002015-08-25T11:21:11.861-07:00The Killers have a song that was hard to escape on...The Killers have a song that was hard to escape on regular radio a few years ago, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5fBdpreJiU" rel="nofollow">Somebody Told Me</a>, which the band says is this: "This is the story of trying to meet someone in a club." It's got everything you're talking about here except for the expense. The sad, desperate, soy-infused beta in the song really is the perfect example.Peregrine Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03511962495322344119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-75060680800652433262015-08-25T10:37:04.530-07:002015-08-25T10:37:04.530-07:00i was saying that exact thing this afternoon, then...i was saying that exact thing this afternoon, then bumped into your post. Your a very smart man captaindanny blacknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-64277003011960644082015-08-25T10:18:47.717-07:002015-08-25T10:18:47.717-07:00Once a month? Get married, sir.
Intelligently. I...Once a month? Get married, sir. <br /><br />Intelligently. Intelligently. <br /><br />I know, I know. I said, intelligently. <br /><br />As to those expensive weddings! No, no, no, that's not necessary. Coffee and cake in the nearest building with stained glass windows is quite enough. Amateur photography and canned music is quite enough. Two months notice is quite enough.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-76818263077173478612015-08-25T07:11:47.347-07:002015-08-25T07:11:47.347-07:00Everything moves into and out of fashion. I think...Everything moves into and out of fashion. I think we're seeing is the transition period where young people don't want to go out to clubs (too expensive) but haven't really found the next thing yet.<br />I personally stopped going to clubs when I was about 25, even then I was a once every three months guys.<br />The last time (and last straw) was when the club I visited, which is an 80s music club, was full of 18-21 year olds and I was looked at as some kind of perv for daring to check any of the girls out.<br />Didn't get any luck (come to think of it, never had any luck) so I called it quits and haven't looked back.<br />One of the other things I noticed with 'my generation' (I'm 35 now) was that most of my friends would cease going out with us once they got girlfriends. The original premise of going out was to have fun, but as soon as they were tied down they were out, which left our clubbing group getting smaller and smaller until there was only a few of us.<br />Overall I think the end of the clubbing scene can only be a good thing. Hopefully what replaces it is better for everyone.One Fat Oz Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07797937597104956489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-40790501399327288762015-08-25T03:25:56.906-07:002015-08-25T03:25:56.906-07:00Yes, the Cappy is right. Let me do a back of the ...Yes, the Cappy is right. Let me do a back of the cocktail napkin calculation.<br /><br />Price of club: $50/night at a club, times 8 nights in a month. (Fri & Sat. Extra weekend days are time off for Mr. Horny.) This equals $400. <br /><br />Price of high-class (and infection free) hooker/escort: $300. <br /><br />Price of getting laid once a month: The hooker/escort is ahead by a hundred bucks. These are bucks I can spend on other sources of entertainment. <br /><br />As for me, I'm going for the hooker/escort. F!!k the "club!" If I spend my time and money there, I will not get laid. So, why should I bother. <br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-88033640204066859372015-08-25T03:05:29.930-07:002015-08-25T03:05:29.930-07:00Agreed! Theres really no point in going to night c...Agreed! Theres really no point in going to night clubs to meet new women.<br />There are only 2 reasons go in my opinion. First is with a group of maybe 5 or more with several opposite sex friends you might be interested in hooking up with. The second reason is going to clubs in an area where its primarily tourists. i.e. Vegas, or holiday destinations for Europeans. i.e. Barcelona, Hamburg ect. Many of these girls are in "holiday mode" and want to hook up and have a good time. But even then, online dating or any atmosphere where you can talk without screaming in someones ear is definitely betterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-4259955750365254652015-08-25T01:34:34.449-07:002015-08-25T01:34:34.449-07:00Nice article. I'd never really thought of it l...Nice article. I'd never really thought of it like that. Why still a sausage fest out then?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-29884263161629556652015-08-24T22:08:17.335-07:002015-08-24T22:08:17.335-07:00Yeah, the club scene was only kept up by those tha...Yeah, the club scene was only kept up by those that thought it meant something. Here in Toronto, Canada, the club scene is still fairly active. Although that doesn't mean much. I know more friends and acquaintances that prefer drinking at home or at the local watering hole. Reasons? Cheaper drinks, no covers, and better times had by all. Clubs are just fancy ways to separate you from your hard earned cash fast and efficiently.PaladinPhilnoreply@blogger.com