tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post7139059071670343176..comments2024-03-25T15:17:04.488-07:00Comments on Captain Capitalism: The Return of ShameCaptain Capitalismhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05620212946121617985noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-61349092978081064312013-11-07T22:41:53.183-08:002013-11-07T22:41:53.183-08:00An excellent article! I'm a Junior in high sch...An excellent article! I'm a Junior in high school, and I was writing a persuasive essay about war and shame for my English class when I came across your article. (I was originally inspired about the topic from my Western Philosophy and Ethics class.) It was an excellent resource.<br /><br />Here are some relevant ideas I used in my essay:<br /><br />-Aristotle believed that one of the 12 virtues all people should try and live by was shame. <br /><br />-Newsweek published and article called "The Return of Shame".<br /><br />-Neutralization of Deviance, or how people justify immoral actions to get rid of shame.<br /><br />-The idea that acceptance, while good in some cases, is not always the best thing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-8554445053996144012013-05-13T21:49:13.611-07:002013-05-13T21:49:13.611-07:00Is shame really that useful? It seems to me that i...Is shame really that useful? It seems to me that it is overkill, insignificant or totally out of place.<br /><br />I don't care about single mother having their bastard spawn as long as the aren't taking my taxes away. Leave them to their own (lack of) means, shaming them is irrelevant (or we could codify single momhood as child abuse by the law, as some senator suggested).<br /><br />The guy that majored in International Business has no job? Leave him to his unemployment or his work as a janitor. The punishment is enough.<br /><br />Now, do you really think that any regular bankster like John Corzine or gang thugs care at all at what society think about them?<br /><br />Let's not forget the amount of issues where the shame get totally misdirected by the idiocy of the average person. **Euthanasia** - cough - **Abortion** - cough - **stem cell research**Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-72157196037235352502013-04-01T19:30:27.819-07:002013-04-01T19:30:27.819-07:00Excellent post! Linked here: http://bobagard.blogs...Excellent post! Linked here: http://bobagard.blogspot.com/2013/04/it-is-now-shameful-to-shame.htmlBob's Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11971565970366294930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-58307881536518046952013-03-30T06:06:11.064-07:002013-03-30T06:06:11.064-07:00I always counter the shaming crap by stating that ...I always counter the shaming crap by stating that it's a "shame" the law prohibits me from kicking their worthless asses! They fuck-off in a hurry then!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-78642214173610468402013-03-30T06:02:23.243-07:002013-03-30T06:02:23.243-07:00You can't be called a hypocrite if you don'...You can't be called a hypocrite if you don't have any standards. Ever. And the Left uses "hypocrite!" as their number one shame-inducer to the Right.<br /><br />If you try to do the same to say, Al Gore or Obama, it has no traction b/c they are not even in the same game as the rest of us. They are completely faithful and true to their own inner godling. Standards are for people who don't believe the game is rigged.<br /><br />The young men of today were raised without standards, and the idea of shaming has no traction with them either. It'll be a reaction to boredom and poverty that our elites will feel. Much like Egypt. It's not even ideological when one's stomach is growling, and one's future is wretched. Shaming is for school marms. There will be blood.Joan of Argghh!https://www.blogger.com/profile/14729682908266300507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-18315371651428456672013-03-30T02:19:27.629-07:002013-03-30T02:19:27.629-07:00Another home run.....
Kim du Toit....a blogger wh...Another home run.....<br /><br />Kim du Toit....a blogger who hung it up a few years back touched on this subject. It's an important one that rarely gets the attention it deserves.<br /><br />Dannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-23674257740281906332013-03-29T19:11:35.939-07:002013-03-29T19:11:35.939-07:00Let's not forget "reverse shame" - h...Let's not forget "reverse shame" - how liberal news outlets seek to cause people to be misinformed out them to shame people who shouldn't have shave. <br /><br />Example - If you support welfare reform, the press shames you for being selfish and evil. If you are against gay marriage, you are shamed for standing for traditional values.<br /><br />Everything that is honorable is dishonored... everything that is dishonorable is elevated as proper and desirable. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-34724592873354426902013-03-29T15:08:31.218-07:002013-03-29T15:08:31.218-07:00Think of the movie you don't want to see 42. T...Think of the movie you don't want to see 42. That's another example of shame we're all supposed to feel even though we had nothing to do with it. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-23506179276718254022013-03-29T13:38:15.217-07:002013-03-29T13:38:15.217-07:00My grandmother divorced. Women who knew her for th...My grandmother divorced. Women who knew her for three decades never knew she had previously married.<br /><br />There was such a stigma associated with being a divorcee that she never told anyone. Let that sink in.<br /><br />She need to bring shame back. If you get divorced, you are a failure.Mattnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-13961806998485131462013-03-29T10:34:43.378-07:002013-03-29T10:34:43.378-07:00The problem with shame as a social mediating mecha...The problem with shame as a social mediating mechanism is that it depends on *other people*. If no one knows you did wrong, then there's nothing to be ashamed of.<br /><br />That's why the West has traditionally relied on *guilt*. YOU know you did wrong, even no one else does, and your sense of guilt shames you from within.jabrwokhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14537636497352864636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-66413374761629572832013-03-29T08:56:47.315-07:002013-03-29T08:56:47.315-07:00The left isn't against "shame" they ...The left isn't against "shame" they use it all the time against anyone who doesn't get with their program. Take for example the right to self defence. They regularly try to shame anyone who wants to use a gun to protect themselves as mindless child killers. Look at the shame campaign against the NRA. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-53902024609088140282013-03-29T05:05:27.919-07:002013-03-29T05:05:27.919-07:00Captain,
A side note. You said, "young, ende...Captain,<br /><br />A side note. You said, "young, endebted [sic] by previous generations to the tune of $225,000." I think that dollar figure is much higher.<br /><br />Lets look at 3 people that leave high school in 2013. The three together owe $675,000.<br /><br />One of the three will end up in a government job. Government workers do nothing to pay off the debt, they receive money from the government then remit some of it back. This circular flow can not pay off debt so the other 2 have to pay off the debt. <br /><br />Of the remaining two students, one will never pay enough in taxes to compensate for the dollars he or she receives in direct government payments. That leaves one of three to pay off the total amount owed, $675,000. <br /><br />That is $17,000 per year the one "net taxpayer" must repay over a 40 year career without considering interest. So screwed; so, so screwed. <br /><br />The only hope for the one actual taxpayer is hyper inflation. System collapse would only make things worse as the producers will be blamed as the cause of the problems and the solution will be more social programs and regulations with more government employees (that pay no net taxes) to dole out the benefits and enforce the regulations.<br /><br />Best option for parents today, find a good government job for your kids, bribe someone to get the jobs for your kids if you have to and teach your kids to mouth the right platitudes to keep those jobs. Sounds a bit like Mexico or Zimbabwe but that is our situation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-20943976624834519792013-03-29T00:52:36.855-07:002013-03-29T00:52:36.855-07:00Have you seen this blog?
stuartschneiderman.blogs...Have you seen this blog?<br /><br />stuartschneiderman.blogspot.com<br /><br />He wrote a book about shame in America. His blog is excellent. I haven't read the book. Another book I'd like to read is The Chrysanthemum and the Sword which is about Japanese culture and how it differs to American culture.<br />Anyhoo, good post.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-84333813299301205502013-03-28T22:46:46.150-07:002013-03-28T22:46:46.150-07:00Very nice post captain...
The problem is that it&...Very nice post captain...<br /><br />The problem is that it's just your opinion. What facts (anecdotal or otherwise) do you have to convince us that shaming will make a comeback.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-22279889196557414322013-03-28T20:35:06.885-07:002013-03-28T20:35:06.885-07:00Shame is generally defined as [i]a social enforcem...Shame is generally defined as [i]a social enforcement of unwritten or unofficial laws.[/i]<br /><br />When the manosphere started actually <em>writing</em> those laws in Indelible Internet Ink for all to see and critique, shame started being a much less useful tactic.<br /><br />The real trouble of the age was better defined as <a href="http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2013/02/charles-stross-discovers-cathedral.html" rel="nofollow">chronic kinglessness, </a>which the PUAs and such have taken full advantage of. <br /><br />In a kingless age, we are drawn strangely to those who act like kings, but they cannot serve the function of kings, for real kings must have both final sovereign authority over their provinces and a rooted place in that province.<br /><br />So real democracy that can conceivably claim "every man a king" must give males commensurate authority in their marriages if they want them to stay rooted to one place. They haven't succeeded in rooting men to one house(and female-dominated Realtor(TM) teams seem rather averse to such goals if recent real estate bubbles are any indication) though they've made great strides in tying men to their bank accounts!<br /><br />"We removed any kingly authority and respect from the marriage contract and ensured no one really owns his own home or can stay there long...why isn't anyone getting married?"<br /><br />The answer: Because the Prime Minister Cartel and Oligarchy has not been publicly disbanded.Dystopia Maxhttp://www.mypostingcareer.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-54014770861246376342013-03-28T19:50:28.664-07:002013-03-28T19:50:28.664-07:00Laws are a "mediating institution" that ...Laws are a "mediating institution" that enables those in a culture to live together in a culture, according to its mores instead of resort to brute force as the norm. Shame is the mediating institution that holds the culture together short of law. If they fail, things revert to violence. The coming scarcity from the economic collapse, and violence from the social collapse will make a lot of wards of the state "hit the wall" literally. And those who respond to the new pressures by whining and attacking will be among the first to be disabused by reality and those with no patience.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-63703705211432461502013-03-28T19:22:07.706-07:002013-03-28T19:22:07.706-07:00Seven out of Ten feel oppressed
http://www.standa...Seven out of Ten feel oppressed<br /><br />http://www.standard.co.uk/news/victim-culture-means-seven-out-of-ten-feel-oppressed-7176112.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-16970495583713021382013-03-28T19:15:12.888-07:002013-03-28T19:15:12.888-07:00Hey, don't forget retirees. Many of them see ...Hey, don't forget retirees. Many of them see the same thing, are PO'ed, have unlimited hours and are free of the shackles of their employer.<br /><br />My employer sent an all-hands memo today about keeping silent about what's happening inside the company - can't even share with your family, lest you risk being tagged by the SEC for insider trading. So I can't share with my broker why I want to sell my corporate stock. Good fricking grief.<br /><br />More likely, they don't want the truth coming out and embarrassing the corporate execs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-83917438136354888932013-03-28T19:13:18.212-07:002013-03-28T19:13:18.212-07:00This one needs to be Shamed big time: http://www.b...This one needs to be Shamed big time: http://www.bizpacreview.com/2013/03/28/the-future-of-obamacare-36dd-breasts-58248ARossnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-19703096458622319272013-03-28T19:01:32.081-07:002013-03-28T19:01:32.081-07:00A question which should be put to blacks: to which...A question which should be put to blacks: to which party did KKK members overwhelmingly belong?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-49151389156763652412013-03-28T18:47:21.293-07:002013-03-28T18:47:21.293-07:00Sometimes I feel like sticking my head out the win...Sometimes I feel like sticking my head out the window and acting out the Howard Beale scene from <i>Network</i> and yell, "I'm mad as hell and I'm not gonna take this anymore!"<br /><br />In fact, I'm ready to do anything it takes so I'll be in a college dorm this summer. As I said in the email, I've been accepted into the same electrical engineering RETP program as last time and all I need to do is get some fees and papers taken care of and get some supplies and I'll be all good to go! The orientation is May 18th and it's on a Saturday. Even if this means having to cut off all contact with my mother, it's something that I need to do and take very seriously this time. It's crucial that I won't have to be a prisoner of own home with a dysfunctional, micromanaging mother who doesn't want to let me do anything, even use her car to go to a Domino's Pizza interview or let me have a student bank account! My dad has been 100x more supportive and understanding of what I'm going through, so I'm lucky to have him.<br /><br />She was even nutty enough to say that the age of 24 or 25 would be a good age for me to leave the house and live on my own just because my sister might be returning to live at home. She is still waiting on Yeshiva University up in New York City to accept or reject her for law school. Autism is also a lousy excuse for me not to live on my own when I know a bunch of other people with more obvious versions of the disorder doing just fine in college and doing well in their dorms and that's what she's been trying to justify all this nonsense with. Some crap a doctor told her a long time ago which isn't true.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05166618601866526009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-62992968080359687852013-03-28T17:54:00.793-07:002013-03-28T17:54:00.793-07:00Shame? Captain---women have no shame. They never d...Shame? Captain---women have no shame. They never did. Even the Bible is full of it. "Shame" is what they use to manipulate men so they'll put down the beer and go to work so the women can sit around and do whatever---or whomever---they feel like doing. That's why we had prohibition, and now a drug war---women wanted a way of keeping men from staying at the bar all night that didn't involve putting out, knowing how to cook something that didn't taste like puke, or figuring out how to have their brats in bed and quiet when he got home. You know, doing their jobs. <br /><br />The idea of women's "rights," of course (in the real world, men have to earn what they want) was used to shame men into handing over the keys to the treasury so the women could spend men's tax money on themselves.<br /><br />Shame won't work on them. Consequences will. Nothing will change until women run out of Daddy's money---when men start going their own way en masse (if you'll forgive the mixed metaphor), tax revenues collapse, the make-work jobs disappear along with the welfare for single tramps---or rather mothers---and government "pensions" for professional feminists are paid, if at all, in worthless Fed-confetti that won't even buy catfood.<br /><br />Then, maybe, the younger women will figure out that it no longer pays to be an irresponsible lazy stupid slut and pull themselves together in time to find a husband they're genuinely able and willing to love, honour and obey instead of humiliate and cheat out of every penny he ever made. While they're at it, they might learn how to cook and to balance a checkbook instead of whining that math is hard.<br /><br />Their mothers---well. A man's investments should primarily be in gold, non-perishable food and ammo. Thst said, it couldn't hurt to invest the remainder in slightly more bottles of hard liquor, tranquilizers and razor blades than he needs for his personal use. A repentant feminist or two mugged by reality might just be willing to trade the last of her valuables (including a few things she never offered her husband, if the man is in the right mood) to invest in the only realistic retirement scheme most old feminists will have, namely the Valium, gin and Gillette plan.Pete Brewsternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-27912787342478659402013-03-28T16:34:14.068-07:002013-03-28T16:34:14.068-07:00Great post. As I see it, shame is a product of hon...Great post. As I see it, shame is a product of honor - the inverse of it - and honor in some form is necessary for society to survive. I think about this, and I get pissed off every time I see some academic comparison between cultures which subscribe to honor and cultures which subscribe to the rule of law. The rule of law DEPENDS on a foundation of honor. Some idiots really don't know how to think.C.J. Caswellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10105689230744789436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-50440608812250933032013-03-28T16:17:20.477-07:002013-03-28T16:17:20.477-07:00You know CC, I first got exposed to ideas of sover...You know CC, I first got exposed to ideas of sovereignty through the "black manosphere" you could say. And my first exposure to the Manosphere was the Black Manosphere which was at its peak on Youtube 3-4 years ago with the best videos being by Thugtician of the UK who has since disappeared from the web.<br /><br />It seems Black men prefer video blogging on youtube and delivering verbal presentations on blog talk radio and other oratory venues rather than "blogging". Of course there is blackmenvent.com and others.<br /><br />They've been at it for a looooong time.<br /><br />"When are black guys going to back up the white guys? Eh? Or maybe they like the gubmint cheese (aka gilded cage) too much?"<br /><br />Black men don't get gubmint cheese.<br /><br />But I will say one thing - the piece at RoK that Athlone McGinnis wrote about "feminism" kicking black men out of their homes to give black women "gubmint cheese" is not correct.<br /><br />Black women with good, working, responsible black men as their husbands and fathers of their children DID NOT kick these men out of their homes to receive a pittance from the gubmint and end up alone and cold in bed at night.<br /><br />What happened is that there already was beginning to be a surplus of black men abandoning their children.<br /><br />The "gubmint" then stepped in.<br /><br />Its not feminists forced their way into 2-parent, stable, nuclear black families and convinced wives to divorce their husbands.<br /><br />Gimme a break!<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-29764329299573461552013-03-28T15:45:38.670-07:002013-03-28T15:45:38.670-07:00Not to sound too optimistic, but I believe some of...Not to sound too optimistic, but I believe some of our black brothers of the male persuasion are on the brink of having enough of this leftist shit shoved down their throats.<br /><br />They may want to enjoy a better life.<br /><br />And if they don't and want to continue the leftist "woe is me ism" then they can continue to enjoy the Detroitlife they chose for themselves.<br /><br />Idiots, regardless of race, can enjoy the consequences of their stupid decisions. I have no passion either way.Captain Capitalismhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05620212946121617985noreply@blogger.com