tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post63420180619356300..comments2024-03-25T15:17:04.488-07:00Comments on Captain Capitalism: "If It Just Saves One Life"Captain Capitalismhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05620212946121617985noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-64513705792294810282013-01-19T15:55:42.023-08:002013-01-19T15:55:42.023-08:00I hate the "if it saves just one life" f...I hate the "if it saves just one life" fallacy. I was complaining to a friend a while back about how hard it is to buy over the counter cold medicine anymore. He said "Yeah, but if it saves just one life, it's all worth it". I told him I don't care. If people are stupid enough to get themselves killed over NYQUIL, then to heck with them. The value of their life, in my opinion, does not exceed the value of my inconvenience.Eric S. Muellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11378001500010545127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-35972777534462611302013-01-18T12:49:10.657-08:002013-01-18T12:49:10.657-08:00Yup, it's become a truism that if if you have ...Yup, it's become a truism that if if you have one or two things associated with a justifying a law it's almost certainly a horrible legislative idea.<br /><br />1. It's for the children<br />2. It saves just one life.<br /><br />In both cases put one hand on your constitution(al rights) and the other on your wallet, because one or both are about to be stolen.<br /><br />That and it's almost always a highly liberal law project.<br /><br />Notice the correlation there?<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-80936194038081467412013-01-18T10:19:25.923-08:002013-01-18T10:19:25.923-08:00New Gun Control Laws?
Please tell me more about h...New Gun Control Laws?<br /><br />Please tell me more about how criminals observe and obey laws.Don't Work In Kansas Citynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-89612183378686694142013-01-18T10:12:17.307-08:002013-01-18T10:12:17.307-08:00@ Anonymous (7:20pm)
Either your ability to exerc...@ Anonymous (7:20pm)<br /><br />Either your ability to exercise logic is weak, or you're being deliberately deceitful. You start by talking about gun violence deaths, and then switch to it reducing overall deaths. <br /><br />There's the big lie that gun control groups continue to perpetuate. Focusing on "gun deaths" is their admission that gun control laws don't reduce murder rates or violent crime rates. At best, they just shift the tool used to kill to something else. More often, murder and violent crime rates actually go up because younger attackers know their weaker victims won't be able to defend themselves.<br /><br />Gun control, or "gun violence reduction" as they call it now, has nothing to do with making any of us safer, and everything to do with exercising greater control over the unwashed masses.Laughingdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07788824586959334168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-13823787056006025612013-01-18T09:05:36.766-08:002013-01-18T09:05:36.766-08:00First time I have been to your blog. It is intere...First time I have been to your blog. It is interesting that we came to the same words to describe people who use this argument liars or idiots. I said it in the first paragraph, you said it in your last.<br /><a href="http://myreputo.blogspot.com/2013/01/at-what-cost-part-iii.html" rel="nofollow">At What Cost?</a>Reputohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06845157593799270355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-87205973702457939332013-01-18T07:43:10.229-08:002013-01-18T07:43:10.229-08:00http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD0dmRJ0oWg
On thi...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD0dmRJ0oWg<br /><br />On this exact subject: Milton Friedman Puts A Young Michael Moore In His PlaceS. Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12683953991666294097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-23620149798782605022013-01-17T19:37:00.342-08:002013-01-17T19:37:00.342-08:00Ok..I'll play the game..if it saves just one l...Ok..I'll play the game..if it saves just one life..how come the left will not brook the subject of placing armed guards in schools?<br /><br />Surely it would save at least one measly life if the legislation was enacted?<br /><br />Kursk<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-19115095734685722252013-01-17T19:20:41.937-08:002013-01-17T19:20:41.937-08:00I hope you take the chance to clarify some things ...I hope you take the chance to clarify some things for me. As I see it, the $500m is being used to reduce expected gun violence deaths, not as insurance to be paid out to the families of the 26 people. My reading is that even if the reduction in deaths is one person, then the cost of reduction is $500m. But to me that statement was an appeal to emotion rather than an economic argument. <br /><br />I do agree there that if it only saved one life and did nothing else, the money could spent more efficiently. But on a practical view, that is not what the package will achieve, nor can we (to my knowledge) calculate how many lives it will save given once that course is taken there is no counterfactual to compare it with.<br /><br />Aside from that, I do not find the single simplistic equation compelling, nor proof, given there are economic models out there that do take the other considerations into account.<br /><br />It is not true that left-wing politics, math and economics do not mix. Math and economics are objective frameworks, not the slave of any political leaning. It is true that economics does lend support to a right-wing view of how the economy ought to operate, but the area law and economics can be used to assess any policy. With respect, the blog does not “prove” the three things cannot mix. You need only sample some of the law and economic literature out there.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-33683764430049910472013-01-17T18:29:42.336-08:002013-01-17T18:29:42.336-08:00The other issue is that these stupid Obama changes...The other issue is that these stupid Obama changes won't even stop the next shooter. Like the shooters in Colorado during the Clinton assault rifle ban, they will just use something else. <br /><br />Instead, $500 million times zero lives saved equals infinite cost for all of the citizens of the US. Luckily China is still lending us money, right?Steve Adamsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-19800375907085289542013-01-17T18:07:17.891-08:002013-01-17T18:07:17.891-08:00We'll see what the progressives think the valu...We'll see what the progressives think the value of "saving just one life" is when the Obamacare bureaucrats start deciding on a cost / benefit basis which treatments are allowed for which ailments in which age group.<br /><br />It will come in quite a way short of a $million.<br />Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18194867861358564423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-50022419951923997572013-01-17T17:40:10.903-08:002013-01-17T17:40:10.903-08:00So, if owning a gun saves just one life by enablin...So, if owning a gun saves just one life by enabling someone to defend himself or herself, it's worth it, right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-47800292779173674692013-01-17T16:53:38.475-08:002013-01-17T16:53:38.475-08:00While I agree with the basic point, here, the valu...While I agree with the basic point, here, the value of a life is probably higher than $2 million. The question to be asked is not, "How much is this person's life worth in the marketplace," but rather, "How much is this person's life worth to *him*."<br /><br />Economists used revealed preference -- e.g., how much more do risky jobs have to pay to compensate for the chance of death, how much will people pay for safety features in their cars -- to estimate this value. The EPA publishes an estimate based on this approach, which I believe is currently something like $7 million.<br /><br />So, Cappy, you're off by a factor of 3.5. Not ten-thousand years of slavery, less than three-thousand. I could do that time standing on my head.The Outsiderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01702832458836067371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-74748010499041564252013-01-17T16:04:10.095-08:002013-01-17T16:04:10.095-08:00We could save a whole lot of lives by eliminating ...We could save a whole lot of lives by eliminating those of the liberals. It's a win-win IMO.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-6450706989685088792013-01-17T14:54:18.828-08:002013-01-17T14:54:18.828-08:00Damn man... You keep it real.Damn man... You keep it real.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-24358583583729568052013-01-17T13:53:35.506-08:002013-01-17T13:53:35.506-08:00As Mark Levin said last week, they used this same ...As Mark Levin said last week, they used this same mantra for DDT and look at how many lives it's cost.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-91039347770242588292013-01-17T13:40:09.983-08:002013-01-17T13:40:09.983-08:00I looked into this a long time ago, and it was $10...I looked into this a long time ago, and it was $100,000.<br />A hundred thousand to two million within my lifetime means MUCHO inflation. We aren't that much more productive.Augusthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08758314961163692341noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-67369646228342110082013-01-17T13:29:51.793-08:002013-01-17T13:29:51.793-08:00Why are you sorry to be blunt? I'd rather have...Why are you sorry to be blunt? I'd rather have a blunt truth than a sugary lie - like the lie that they're pushing about the value of one person.<br /><br />By the way, am halfway through "Enjoy the Decline" - it arrived yesterday. Very interesting parallels happening here in New Zealand.<br /><br />~YBAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-32892204203419170222013-01-17T13:27:45.215-08:002013-01-17T13:27:45.215-08:00Left wing politics, math and economics don't r...Left wing politics, math and economics don't really mix too well together. I am convinced. Thank you proving this.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05166618601866526009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-26701730204057226802013-01-17T13:09:40.575-08:002013-01-17T13:09:40.575-08:00Let's view it from the other perspective.
Wha...Let's view it from the other perspective.<br /><br />What is the VALUE, in dollars, of liberty ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-46479324785437981562013-01-17T11:36:11.280-08:002013-01-17T11:36:11.280-08:00I agree entirely with your premise, but I think yo... I agree entirely with your premise, but I think your math is flawed. Obama proposed $500 million regarding the deaths of 26 people. So, rather than multiplying $500 million times the entire citizenry (310 million, approx), shouldn't you divide the citizenry by 26, then multiply? (approx. 12 million x $500 million= 5,961,538,461,538,461). 6 quadrillion is much more manageable than 150 quadrillion. No decline! We're all saved!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-39332224357832197772013-01-17T10:54:24.833-08:002013-01-17T10:54:24.833-08:00If liberals want to save lives, that's a noble...If liberals want to save lives, that's a noble goal. I wish them the best in using their own resources and time to that end.<br /><br />But that's not what they want, is it? They want to use *my* money and *my* time to possibly, maybe save a life. Even if it's certain to save one life , or thousands of lives, what about *my* life? If I refuse to comply with their plan, they will send armed thugs with guns, break down my door and put me in a cage. And if I resist they will shoot me down.<br /><br />Liberals think they can play God and decide who gets to live and who gets to die and whose freedoms get trampled on to achieve their goals.Erasmusnoreply@blogger.com