tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post8299326776113250579..comments2024-03-25T15:17:04.488-07:00Comments on Captain Capitalism: The "Married Life Expectancy" Premium is VanishingCaptain Capitalismhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05620212946121617985noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-22798336205298372382014-11-03T06:11:33.803-08:002014-11-03T06:11:33.803-08:00I think you have used the aggregate (men + women) ...I think you have used the aggregate (men + women) graph. The by sex graphs are here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3150568/figure/F2/<br /><br />but that does not alter your reasoning or conclusions (except married men's health levels really ARE stagnated).Phantomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-92218177969965471322014-03-19T08:11:41.814-07:002014-03-19T08:11:41.814-07:00If you are referring to the Terman study that star...If you are referring to the Terman study that started in the 1920 - which is the most widely quotes - it does not conclude that Marriage extends your life - in fact the opposite is obvious. Bella DePaulo in her blog at Psychology Today was dissecting the data from this study. The only conclusion is that Divorced mens' lives are shortened. But its inescapable that Divorced Men have to be included in the "was married" group. People that stayed single OR stayed married lived the longest. SO one can only conclude that marriage shortens a mans life as it adds the risk of divorce.wilmarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09389528559023918482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-41802624051171792492012-10-15T03:19:45.587-07:002012-10-15T03:19:45.587-07:00Looking at the graph, my bullshit detector went ap...Looking at the graph, my bullshit detector went apeshit. It's highly unlikely that you'd get 5 data lines all with perfectly linear trends.<br /><br />Just checked the source paper. The graph you posted isn't based on hard data, the title is *Estimated trends in self-rated health*. They're using a mathematical model to estimate trends.<br /><br />I think they're taking notes from the climate scientists...Chrisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-8481725738224521342012-10-13T18:48:03.693-07:002012-10-13T18:48:03.693-07:00Ah, nothing like feminine hypergamy visible in ful...<i> Ah, nothing like feminine hypergamy visible in full view...</i><br /><br />Mere Italian princes aren't good enough for the likes of her.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-9360351153099077632012-10-13T07:44:28.498-07:002012-10-13T07:44:28.498-07:00http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/olivia_wilde_runne...http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/olivia_wilde_runners_jason_sudeikis_yqqXRGgDomCzTZstweoaIP?utm_campaign=OutbrainA&utm_source=OutbrainArticlepages&obref=obinsite<br /><br />Ah, nothing like feminine hypergamy visible in full view...<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-56893845717438987832012-10-12T16:43:43.479-07:002012-10-12T16:43:43.479-07:00Divorce can be great for your health if you divorc...Divorce can be great for your health if you divorce a drug addict who is stealing all your money. Instant stress reliever.heresolonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00461382067580153600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-70584264200834818942012-10-11T22:17:13.893-07:002012-10-11T22:17:13.893-07:00I would argue the reverse. Marriage does not impro...I would argue the reverse. Marriage does not improve lifespan, rather visibly healthy men are more likely to be selected by women. Divorce, on the other hand, reduces lifespan because the stress of being thrown out of your own house and losing access to your children is incredible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-62300052573185634412012-10-11T17:26:43.748-07:002012-10-11T17:26:43.748-07:00I agree with Mr. Forney.I agree with Mr. Forney.Carnivorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09452340825974303142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-73538718090418216732012-10-11T16:01:41.385-07:002012-10-11T16:01:41.385-07:00Hi Cap,
I think this has to do with money and soc...Hi Cap,<br /><br />I think this has to do with money and societal expectations. Back in the day, wealthy men were expected to get married and raise kids, while poorer folks were more frequently left out. Now, we see that divorced men don't live as long probably because they are forced to transfer their savings and live in poverty, while single men (who are no longer expected to marry) have enough cash to live high quality lives. Nothing beats the pooling of resources afforded to those that can stay married.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-63058130896430337402012-10-11T14:38:38.592-07:002012-10-11T14:38:38.592-07:00The married life expectancy premium has never appl...The married life expectancy premium has never applied to those who manage their own health (fitness, eating right, supplements) and practice potential life extension (Resveratrol, ALA chelation, Melatonin) while still single.kurt9https://www.blogger.com/profile/02101147267959016924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-60724121462771819072012-10-11T13:01:09.762-07:002012-10-11T13:01:09.762-07:00Was it not the great philosopher Rodney Dangerfiel...Was it not the great philosopher Rodney Dangerfield who said that "Married men don't necessarily live longer; it just feels that way."<br /><br />Or maybe W.C. Fields.Mike43noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-91848349898334066982012-10-11T12:19:43.449-07:002012-10-11T12:19:43.449-07:00Men's graph, I HOPE!Men's graph, I HOPE!Captain Capitalismhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05620212946121617985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-87664155332535509692012-10-11T11:53:13.914-07:002012-10-11T11:53:13.914-07:00Did you use the men's graph are the "both...Did you use the men's graph are the "both sexes" graph?anon dudenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-62125592115601479732012-10-11T10:08:12.508-07:002012-10-11T10:08:12.508-07:00Cappy,
good post as always but I think your anal...Cappy, <br /><br />good post as always but I think your analysis of the causes is flawed. <br /><br />the effects of divorce on men's health is probably as you explain but it doesn't account for the increase on health of single men unless you guys are all laughing atty the misfortune of others and getting healthier for it. it also doesn't account for the steady slow climb in married men's health. <br /><br />it seems likely to me that the demographic composition if unmarried men is approaching that of married men. that feels like a reasonable explanation. <br /><br />but your cost benefit analysis looks right to meadamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8358039.post-33905910987769767252012-10-11T09:52:02.950-07:002012-10-11T09:52:02.950-07:00My problem with the "married men live longer&...My problem with the "married men live longer" canard is that correlation != causation. My own theory is that marital status has little to do with lifespan, it's just that since marriage is historically something that "normal" people do, married people live longer because we're comparing normals to social outcasts. The reason the married life expectancy premium is eroding is because not marrying is becoming more socially acceptable (and necessary), hence more normal people are moving into the "never-married" column.Matt Forneyhttp://mattforney.com/noreply@blogger.com