Friday, September 19, 2008

Kill the Bankers

I was angry before, which prompted me to write my book. But now I am livid. With a potential $1 trillion bill facing the taxpayers, I am at a loss for words to describe my sincere hatred for bankers. And thus, without words, that leaves only actions;

I want to kill the bankers.

I don't mean that in a funny, ha ha, way. I don't mean that in a sarcastic way. I mean that in an old school American, wild wild west, you killed my father-prepare-to-die, deadly serious way. I literally want to grab my gun, get a lot of bullets, find some bankers, hunt them down and kill them. I even know the bankers I would hunt down. I know their names and where I can find them. I would do with a smile on my face. I would enjoy the action of it, I would savor it. I would go home and pour myself a well-earned drink and sleep just as soundly as I ever have, if not, probably better. I would not have one pang of guilt.

Now I know that violence and hate and revenge are officially outlawed in this country. When we get attacked we're supposed to ask what we did wrong. When we get bombed we're supposed to apologize. And when bankers screw us out of $1 trillion, we're supposed to forgive them and get over it and maybe bend over again and to make easier for them the next time around, perhaps spread our butt cheeks.

Not me.

No.

I'm steaming.

And the particular reason why is that bankers are unique because of their hubris and arrogance.

Say you have a deadbeat on welfare. Fine, I have no respect for that individual, I may not really like that individual, but for the most part while they're living off the taxpayer, they're not really living a jet set life style. Bankers on the other hand, insist, almost demand that they live the jet set lifestyle, regardless of whether they produce a profit or not. They drive Beamers, they drive Mercedes, they wear fancy clothes, all to put up the image, all to tell themselves in their minds that they are hot sh!t, whether or not they're actually a good banker. Yet the fact so many of them were so poor at their job that it is potentially going to cost the real working American's $1 trillion shows you their entitlement mentality.

"What? Turn down a loan on account we're ultimately guaranteed by the FDIC and thus the taxpayer and we owe it to the country not to destroy the economy? Why that would get in the way of my commission! And me having the latest in Armani and Trophy Wife apparel is more important than you dumb working schleps! Why, I'm a BANKER, I'm an important guy! I work on Wall Street! I'm not some peon like you!"

Additionally, it is the attitude of the holier than thou crowd of the now-crumbling elite "Bulge Bracket" of Wall Street. I remember many years ago applying to the likes of Bear Sterns and Lehman Brothers only to be turned down solely because I went to a state school and not "the Ivy League." I wasn't a Rockefeller or a Winthrop the III or a Kennedy. I, and presumably the rest of blue collar America, was not "good enough" to work for these firms. Now these firms and their incompetent, moronic blue blood ilk are coming up to us with a cup in their hand for a $1 trillion bail out? These "elites," the "smartest people from the best schools" have effectively caused a recession? They are the bottom of the barrel. They're incompetent. They're losers. They're not good at anything but living off of mommy and daddy, and when they can't produce anything of value, parasiting off the real men and women who work.

Regardless, this mentality these bankers have is the exact same as an entitled socialist, but with the unfathomable arrogance that they're entitled to riches as well at the expense of society and the taxpayer. They are entitled to a fancy I-banking job whether they have the skill for it or not. They are entitled to limitless wealth because of their profession. They are entitled to drive a luxury car, even though pretty much every bankers' beamer out there is paid for with 100% of somebody else's money. It is arguably the epitome of evil and why I seriously would not have any problem killing some bankers.

Of course, the problem is "killing" is "illegal." Much as I (and no doubt some of you) would like to go out with our rifles during "Banker Season," we'd all end up in jail. Thus, I have a solution, that although would not be quite as effective as "The Great Banker Purge of 2008" in fighting moral hazard, I think the effects will be the same as it is worse than death itself;

Tax them.

Tax the living snot out of them.

We know who the bad bankers are. It's not that hard. The Feds are investigating scores of banks and while the criminal bankers have left or been fired, you can still track them down, garnish their wages and make them pay for their mistakes. It is only fair that for once, instead of repeating another S&L bail out where we give bankers another cup of moral hazard, we make them pay, and make the price so dear they never forget. That instead of them parasiting off society, they sleep in their own bed and deal with their own mess. That instead of driving their Escillade around for selling the taxpayers another $40 million worth of worthless CDO's, they drive an old used Chevy Caprice and have to budget, and conserve and feel the constant threat of poverty the rest of us have known, but they never have. I want them to pay the $1 trillion tab, not when they're making $10 million a year in bonus, but when they have to work as a security guard during the 3rd shift for $8.50 and hour.

Of course though, we don't really have a choice because our beloved elected leaders are going to once again bail out the financial system on account of it being "too vital a component to the economy." But bankers beware, if a revolution ever comes and society crumbles, something tells me it won't be rabbit season, or duck season, or Elmer Fudd season.

It'll be banker season.

95 comments:

  1. Anonymous10:52 AM

    Captain, when the future generations of archeologists dig through the ruins of our civilization, I envision a young PhD archeology student coming upon a copy of your book. This student will extract the book from the ruins, translate it, and begin writing his/her thesis on the Rise and Fall of The Colonies

    The pivotal point will be today, when the Federal government said "we won't let anything bad happen to you."

    Sure, there were little things before. Relatively tiny bailouts for those well-connected people who, even in the future, will have the friends necessary to take from the successful and give to the worthless.

    But today is the day we have likely socialized the entire financial industry. Free market ideas will begin dying today. Sure, there'll be a few people (like you and me) who hang on to these ideals. But Capitalism, as an ideal, has taken a huge hit today.

    I liken it to surgery on a gangrenous limb. Sure, you don't want to amputate the arm. But you need to in order to stop the infection from spreading to the rest of the body. The country has just decided that the rest of the body can fight the infection.

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  2. Absolutely. These criminals made of with billions in bonuses that they never earned, that the general public is not being forced to pay for. Tax it all back.

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  3. Anonymous10:58 AM

    Yeah, honestly, I think every single senior manager (define that how you will,of a bailed out co & bank : Fannie Mac, AIG, etc... should have to pay back every penny of bonus they earned in the previous 5 years. Dude, your org went under - and got saved by ME, obvious the bonus is ill gotten gains.

    I've offer an installment plan after the sale of their assets with a modest rate of interest.

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  4. It would actually make me happier if they started a conga line of bankers jumping off the AIG building. It is quite a fall.. and at least would provide some entertainment. And jobs. Someone has to clean that shit up.

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  5. P.S. Does anyone else find it funny that everyone denies naked short selling is happening. You can't prove it - it doesn't exist . Except MS and GS are lobbying to be protected from it. Babies.

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  6. Someone once said that if anyone else did what bankers do, they'd be thrown in prison.

    I have a strong safe and I'll hold your money for you. But since I know that most of the people I'm holding money for won't come back today to get their money, I'll lend it to other people and charge interest. If everyone comes back at the same time and asks for their money, I'll shut my door and put an "Out of Business" sign up. Or, I'll just have the federal government pay them from the insurance company they created.

    Bankers commited the robbery and borrowers drove the getaway car, but the government selected the crime scene, drew up the robbery plans, and handed out the guns and masks. And government will pay for the defense lawyer if the bankers get caught.

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  7. "The only reason some people are still alive is because it's illegal to kill them."

    "Stress is the physiological response resulting from restraining yourself from strangling someone who badly deserves it."

    "You have six fingers on your right hand..."

    "A man could kill from sun up til sun down and his work would never be done."

    "There must be somebody who needs killin'"

    "First thing we do, let's kill all the bankers."

    "Are you feeling lucky punk? Well, are you?"

    "Say hello to my little friend!"

    "I love the smell of napalm in the morning. It smells like victory!"

    "Stealing $1000 is a felony. Stealing $1 trillion is a statistic."

    "Hell is...other people (who just happen to be bankers)."

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  8. Anonymous3:26 PM

    The way things are going with the rip offs in government and finance plus the hot culture war between the left and right sides of the political spectrum ... I guarantee that there will be shooting soon enough.

    That, will no doubt, hurt some people's feelings.

    And too f*cking bad! We are overdue for a good cleansing in the Western world.

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  9. Anonymous3:58 PM

    I think a new law is needed to put the moral hazard back in banking and running a company. If a business goes bankrupt, or requires a bailout, all bonuses, stock-options paid to employees for the last 3-5 years should be seized from the employees of that company. These bankers have been getting 6 and 7 figure bonuses for making money with risky business practises. They did this by off-loading the risk to the taxpayer. I really want to see alot of these fat cats become poor and pay for their damage.

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  10. Anonymous4:02 PM

    As you point out, the culprits are known, the ceo's, coo's, boards of directors and all others who knew the hazards have proven themselves unfit to manage other peoples money.

    The government MUST insist that these people are never allowed to run a company again, they should immediately be barred from sitting as an executive member of any company trading in the USA

    Shareholders should be scanning the lists of boards of directors and hounding any company that have these idiots on their board to immediately discontinue their employment.

    Honest people should shun them, if they are seen on the street, spit on them.

    If this is not implemented then I believe shooting is too good for these vermin. We should go medieval and drag them through the streets in a tumbrel and hang them from a lamp-post outside their head office. Allow their bodies to rot away as message to future managers that malfeasance has a high price.

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    1. the only thing wrong with your response is......

      you expect the government to punish these assholes.

      these assholes own the government. government borrowing and spending creates fatcat contracts that the SAME government officials on either side use as a piggy bank for themselves through contract awarding getting " lobbied" by companies , kickbacks, being in the loop on interest rate a d other market specific actions...the list goes on and on...

      As far as taxing the snot out of them...who will do that?

      The government?

      Captain capitalism's first motion was right. The only thing these assholes understand is that they will die as a direct result of their actions.

      It really is that simple.

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  11. In Atlas Shrugged, one of the mental blocks that Rearden had to overcome was, under the system in place, that it was the looters - not he - who were behaving in a economically rational manner. Warnings of the failure and collapse of the looter philosophy had been made for decades, but the capitalists had always managed to keep the system going.

    Were not these bankers you hate legally compelled to act in a economically 'rational' manner under the system in place?

    I spoke with a man doing loan aggregation last year who confirmed the projections you have been making, but - with the pressure to put deposits to work, the federal guarantees, applicant financial verification delays, and the legal threats of 'discriminating' against anybody for almost any reason - loan officers either had to get used to the idea that they were making loans destined to go bad, or go get one of those other nifty jobs you mentioned.

    "Do I approve the loan, or get a job at McDonald's? Hmmm."

    There is certainly an economic value for integrity, but nobody is writing a check for it.

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    1. Anonymous4:56 PM

      Wow u must be banker,because only a dipshit could actually think that way. Oh they made me do it, lol. Get a real job, create, instead of leaching off others hard work.

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  12. Anonymous5:27 PM

    You sound mad, Captain.

    I still haven't digested what it means.

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  13. Anonymous5:34 PM

    I understand your anger at bankers and I support the idea of making them (financially) responsible for the whole mess.

    But, please, stay calm and rational. According to my experience, at least 60 per cent of population qualify as morons, constantly making mistakes in their jobs. Why should bankers be different? It is just because of the position they are in, that their mistakes have huge consequences. Just think about how many people die in hospitals because many doctors don't know a thing about hygiene or just don't care for it.

    Although I'm still a young man, I've given up any hope that there are people out there who do their job right. It doesn't matter whether I go to auto repair shops, hospitals, restaurants, public services, or banks. I'm surrounded by morons and I'm better off trying to everything by myself.

    Besides, I'm happy that Bernanke and Paulson rescue the banks and insurers. It's already enough that these morons have brought a recession to us, I don't want it to be a Great Depression. That's not socialism, it's about saving our butts or else standing in line for rationed food. They should've already done it in 1929. That could have saved us from the red tape terror that is also partly to blame for this crisis (think about investment banks, Fannie Mae / Freddie Mac).

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    1. Anonymous5:00 PM

      It matters because those bankers are making millions of dollars. If some kid screws up your order at mcdonald's, the whole country isn't going down the toilet, therefore they only make min wage. The problem is the banks knew they were breaking the law but did it anyway.

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  14. Anonymous7:10 PM

    You don't need a gun to rob a bank anymore, you only need a pen. And, there are a lot of people working the in the loans department who are more than willing to hand you that pen.

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  15. Anonymous9:38 PM

    As pissed as I am about bankers, they are only one sector of a bigger problem.

    That problem is the emphasis of executives of banks, investment firms and multinational corporations on short term stock prices and compensation schemes (a very appropriate word) based on apparent short term performance.

    My point here is that executives are being obscenely compensated for short term results to the point that long-term viability of the corporation is more or less ignored.

    Furthermore, this compensation policy encourages dishonest and fraudulent financial accounting such as taking losses off the books in order to make the stock price or business results looks better than they really are.

    Behind every one of these failures, if you look deep enough I bet you'll find financial engineering (a.k.a cooking the books) combined with obscene executive compensation based on short term performance.

    Don't even get me started on obscene executive pay for poor performance and how the boards of directors of these corporations are more or less appointees of the CEO - board independence, my ass.

    And because of short-sighted greed, lack of executive accountability and executives' failures to properly assess and manage risk, you and I are stuck with huge bailouts, a devalued dollar and a larger national debt.

    There's a sucker born... and you and I are him!

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  16. Anonymous10:41 PM

    Cappy though, are you saying that the financial system is not a vital component of the economy? Also, from my understanding, they aren't actually bailing out the institutions themselves, they're just bailing out the money of the customers of those institutions. Liek when they bailed out Bear Sterns, Bear Sterns itself is gone, but the money of the customers was preserved.

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  17. This is a clear example of what Milton Freidman spoke about when he referred to the problem of government and business getting involved together in his documentaries Free to Choose.

    Under a real capitalist system these buggers would be screwed by their failure and in a few years would be driving Pintos and living in seedy motels.

    Since the government came along and propped them up with our money they have no fear.

    We also need to purge the government and its spider system.

    (I'm not advocating killing, I mean time to cut off this bureaucracy and return to the lean system the founders envisioned.)

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  18. These guys were bad at their job, but they are not evil. The compensation schemes did not provide for the right incentives, but that is not the fault of the person who was able to negotiate great compensation. The Boards and shareholders, who have now been wiped out in many cases, are responsible for putting in appropriate compensation schemes. They did not, and now their shares are worthless.

    The majority of these guys did not do anything wrong, let alone illegal. And the majority of Wall Street bankers were not even in mortgage securitization. You want to kill the Lehman M&A banker who worked 80 hours a week for the past five years and just had all of his stock value wiped out by the morons at their Risk Management Group?

    Everything has been essentially fair, in that no one was coerced anything and there was no market intervention, until now. Yeah, things didn't work out the best way, but as a result compensation schemes will change (longer stock vesting periods), leverage will be reduced, and pay will drop. And, bondholders and lenders to these institutions SHOULD LOSE MONEY. That is the one problem with this situation. There should be no bailout. Bailouts are bullshit. There is no way that people who lent at 97% leverage to these shit institutions should be bailed out. That's where you're right. That's where government and the bankers are wrong.

    The solution is not to kill anyone. The solution is not to pass retroactive laws to take away people's funds. The solution is just to NOT allow for any bullshit bailouts. There should be no bailout. People MUST feel the pain. Everyone, INCLUDING LENDERS TO THESE INSTITUTIONS must feel the pain. This is a massive moral hazard in the making, and it cannot be allowed to occur.

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  19. Anonymous5:57 PM

    I see George Bush is commited to being the most left wing President in US history.

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  20. Anonymous1:41 AM

    "Everything has been essentially fair, in that no one was coerced anything and there was no market intervention, until now."

    Aren't banks required to make a certain percentage of their loans in lower income areas to avoid charges of redlining? I'd be willing to bet those areas produce much higher ratios of subprime loans.

    Anyway, I still agree with you that these banks need to fail and that bailing them out would produce a moral hazard on a truly terrifying scale.

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  21. Anonymous6:35 PM

    If the government did its job, it would give the bankers a fair trial and a first-class hanging.

    The bankers are guilty of treason, at very least. They should be legally executed by the duly constituted authorities.

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  22. Anonymous12:29 AM

    Hey, people, now, I by no means am trying to defend banker’s actions and bankers definitely took arbitrage to the limits, but let us remember one thing, what was all this based on? American property speculators (many of them the average American schmo) getting too excited, seeing euphoria inducing dollar signs and leveraging themselves too the hilt, buying 4 properties, with the knowledge that if things go bad they can just leave 3 of them and all else is safe, including the re-mortgaged "profit" from the past property valuation increases... Nice... Btw, this is the second time the US goverment has had to bail out the economy due to a real estate crisis... S&L crisis... Will you ever learn?

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  23. Anonymous11:45 AM

    "Perhaps you could also argue that if the American consumer did not take the time to understand his own predicament that he should not be able to vote."

    There are days that I believe this. And those days are starting to outnumber the days that I don't.

    If these people can't handle their finances, why should they get a say in how much I pay in taxes?

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  24. Anonymous9:22 PM

    Well said! The reasons why this happens it that large business owns politicians, and it's an evil, symbiotic relationship. The ordinary, average, hard working person doesn't get a say in this, because he has no way of influencing and forcing the government to NOT fund fuck ups like this. I'm old school - the banks should be left to go bust due to their bad management. Period. NO one pays for my debts if I do a runner.

    Dave

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  25. Anonymous2:16 PM

    And, of course, you couldn't possibly blame the massive overleveraging on the idiots who took out enormous mortgages they knew they'd fail to repay, living on credit they couldn't afford. It's the US economy which TARP is trying to bail, not the bankers.

    Why kill the bankers? Because it's got to be the evil corporates? I live within my means, even though I _could_ have gotten a loan to buy a house 3x the size of mine; but of course, blame McDonalds for getting you fat, not yourself for cramming burgers down your gullet.

    So let's wish ourselves back to the dark ages. That'll fix it.

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  26. Anonymous10:33 AM

    Let me know where and when i'll be there to have your back Sir and straight execute those motherF'er bitch-ass Connecticut living theifs.

    I have more respect for the crackheads than panhandle outside the WTC or 9th street PATH Stations than i do those

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  27. Anonymous2:52 PM

    Captain-your words are like heaven to me. Your views are so identical to mine that I cannot even articulate my joy in reading them.
    DEATH TO BANKERS!
    OK FUCK IT TAX THE BASTARDS!
    Cant we just kill one tiny, little fat cat banker?

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  28. Captain, you rule man!!!

    How in the hell can these idots be allowed to walk free??? And what about the yuppie idiots in houses they can't dream of affording???? Good God, they are all asses! Now McCain wants to give them a new loan at "fair market" value?? WTF! Damn! This really feels like China to me....

    And Obama wants 800billion in new spending...

    We are fucked. This nation is over. Our great grandchildren will curse us.

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  29. Anonymous9:30 AM

    I am amazed that noone has killed at least one of these banksters.
    The real propblem with them is that they believed their own bullshit, and we went along with it.
    We must make amends by killing one of these self-important fucks each day.
    Start with that prick Steve Schwarzman and go from there.
    I will be happy to fire the first shot....

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  30. Anonymous6:54 PM

    You rock. I agree completely and wholeheartedly. Kill them all, and when you're done kill the politicians, IRS morons and the lawyers that defend them. When we're done we'll probably have a pretty good country again. We need a little "natural selection" aka Revolution...us regular guys really have to stop keeping our nose to the grindstone and start throwing the grindstone...

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  31. So, folks. Lots of angry steam being vented. Who wants to really do something?

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  32. Anonymous5:33 AM

    captain, it's not $1 trillion, it's more like $400 trillion. and thats if anyone can work it out, which up until now, no has....
    so that's more or less all the money.

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  33. Anonymous5:37 AM

    how about
    bloody revolution right here right now.
    iam up for it. whose with me?

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  34. Anonymous7:48 AM

    You mean the CENTRAL BANKER, as they are responsible for everything, not the average banker on wall street. And by the Central Banker you mean the few handful of families that own the central banks of the world... if they weren't around, this world would be a better place! I'm sure in due time they'll get whats coming..

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  35. I would have to agree and say it is "Banker Season". Bankers - Hedge Fund Managers, Stock Brokers etc. all take massive amounts of risk with other people's money, usually not knowing exactly what they are betting on. It's all about large short term gains before they hit "burn out". There is no accountability for their actions -- just a bonus whether they did good or bad. They should be heavily taxed/punished for their incompetence, greed and conceit. Bailing them out is a massive mistake and they will never learn if it's not the hard way. Remember these people were supposed to be the best and brightest, I guess they weren't.

    The average american has to wake up from "the dream". The American consumer is also to blame for leveraging their lives with credit and not knowing their own financial limits. They shouldn't be bailed out either. Give them some wellbutrin and tell them to work their way through life, not charging it and deficit financing their lifestyles! You are not entitled to anything you selfish Westerner!

    Everyone has to take a hard look at themselves and where they stand in the world, country and their community. Democracy/Capitalism needs to evolve and put aside big business interests and look at the people's interests. Capitalism now has to become socially responsible and government has to enforce it.

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  36. Anonymous5:28 PM

    u really want to get the bankers contact the MOUNTAINEER MILITIA

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  37. Anonymous11:03 PM

    Watch Bill Maher:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiioO6WhaKM&feature=channel_page

    I cannot condone violence or acting outside the law.

    But honestly, if somebody ran for the Congress displaying the severed head of Dick Fuld or Angelo Mozilo on a spike, I might vote for them.

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  38. Anonymous3:28 AM

    It's because they live in America that these bankers escape execution. In the more civilized parts of the world, these supreme enemies of the world will be tied to the stake and shot through their hearts. But their crimes are so monumental, that I would prefer to boil them in oil. Why does America protect these super criminals?

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  39. Anonymous2:53 PM

    For, me the visual is something like when the Italians strung up their leaders and his mistress from a street light.
    Imagine all the wide avenues in your town festooned with dangling bankers. That's a visual.
    Now, that's how pissed I am.
    Thanks SEC, thanks FED, thanks Wall Street, thanks Realtors and all the other financial leaches.
    And a special rope for those who brag -- even now -- of flipping a house.

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  40. Anonymous5:16 PM

    Take a lot of ammo. And don't forget the lawyers, the politicians,...

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  41. Anonymous10:59 AM

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  42. Ok. I'm with you. But first, you need to know who are your targets. Here they are: http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=1

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  43. Anonymous5:28 PM

    I googled "kill the bankers" and found your blog; it was literally the first search result on the page.

    If you wrote this 6 months ago, I imagine now you not only want to kill the bankers, but their children as well. I know I do. Especially when they're paying themselves out millions in bonuses while the economy crashes and burns to the ground. They are worst than any murderers in prison.

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  44. I think you will actually see some bankers get killed as the recession gets worse or people they've pissed off contract cancer.

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  45. Anonymous11:54 AM

    you are so right. that's why I have created www.shootabanker.com

    So you finally get your well deserved apologies.
    enjoy!

    Arie

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  46. shoot them in the face, and cut off there heads and spike there heads on tower bridge. i would help, need a goo blood bath

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  47. Anonymous9:40 PM

    i'm in!! i'd cut their throats in an instant! and their kids, wives and mothers in law.......these bastards are responsible for so much misery that death is actually to good for them...cage 'em and torture them for months first

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  48. Anonymous6:14 PM

    Investment bankers are deadly parasites. We all have micro-organisms in our guts that help us digest stuff. If ever one of these symbiotic populations takes over, we die in agony. Bankers are disgusting intestinal worms that are tolerable and perhaps even beneficial when they work in balance with their host organism (us). Now they have gorged themselves on our blood and we need a vermifuge. I do think some death and dishonor is in order here. Public humiliation, beatings, eggings, stonings, you name it. Take every CFO and CEO and utterly consume their families' wealth. If they throw a fit, feed them to some hungry pigs. The parasites need to be cleansed out of our system.

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  49. Anonymous12:26 PM

    check out shootthebanker.com! you can shoot a robotic paintball gun at a guy dressed at a banker. pretty cool!

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  50. Anonymous6:32 AM

    the best part (and perhaps a faint silver lining) is that you only need to lop off a few heads in order to show you mean business, and the rest will get the point and fall into line. emotionally that's how i feel, but the pragmatist in me says that some life sentences and complete disgorgement of the trillions the banks and high-end execs have usurped over the past decades would be a huge step in the right direction. that and some real change. and most of all, don't forget the silent rat-screw of inflation, based on the mandrake mechanism, that has been eroding wealth long before the credit crisis.

    the problem with violent action, while potentially effective in the short run, is akin to the torture issue -- it shows who we are and where we are as a society. draconian punishment has always been abused by humans in the long run and seldom makes things better than before. as doug s. alluded to, our monetary/political apparatus is sick, but not enough to sacrifice the whole. i truly believe (largely based on forums like this) that our republic has some glory days left.

    but seriously. this farce continues to expand because they know the average guy is too dumb, too burdened and too anesthetized to understand, let alone care enough to motivate to action. i mean, look at what the religious right can accomplish with a little bit of hooting and hollering on sundays to the congregation. real reform has to come from an informed society that cares and aggressively advocates change. that's the only thing that separates us from barbarians.

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  51. Anonymous3:55 PM

    Sorry, but I think you are missing the point. You should not be looking to 'grab a gun and hunt the bankers'.. That is, quite frankly, rather silly. You are obviosuly blinded by the mysery they are inflicting on society. With this in mind, similar levels of suffering are deserved.

    Might I suggest, lining the bankers up suspended 10 feet in the air, applying fire proof oxygen masks, and lighting a large fire beneath them. The height will mean they suffer the pain and blisters from the heat of the building fire, and the gas mask ensure that they actuall die from burning to death rather than simply suffocating on the smoke.

    Really, you need to extend your imagination a little bit. You could even call it a Bank-B-Q.

    For good measure, force them to withdraw thier ill gotten gains in paper printed notes, and use this for the fire?

    Just a thought

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  52. Anonymous12:34 AM

    OMG did everyong read the rolling stones article on Goldman Sachs and how they basically engage in systemic fraud to rape the common man via pump and dumps, fraudulently rated collateralized debt obligations and securitizations, and market manipulations ... OMG a must read and also check out web site goldmansachs666.com ?!?!?!

    very scary stuff - i think the illigitimate and corrupt portions of their business (which probably represents 80% of the firm's revenue) are on the verge of being teared down... i mean lets face it.. the bankers together with certain of their co-conspirators have managed to loot the greatest country in the world... only a matter of time till US soverign debt rating is downgraded ..

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  53. Anonymous5:20 PM

    I would reccommend that when the revolution begins, all the bankers are rounded up and taken to prison. While in prison they will have the advantage to learn how their actions are felt by everyone they screwed everytime they go to the shower.

    Kill them No...make them pay dearly!

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  54. Anonymous10:07 PM

    paulie, would you REALY help???

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  55. Anonymous1:05 PM

    I vote to Crucify them.

    literally.

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  56. Anonymous2:31 PM

    What's the addresses? How about a list for all the suicidal crazy people out there to take a few with them?

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  57. Anonymous2:46 PM

    Just rehearsing with my new band - 'The Rich Hitlers'
    First album working title is 'Kill the Bankers'

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  58. Anonymous2:56 PM

    Just got out of the studio after 16 houros of rehearsing my new band 'The Rich Hitlers' - songs such as
    'Aldo Moro is no more, Oh', and '
    'You just keep me hanging on' (under Blackfriars Bridge)..etc.,etc. - the album working title is blatantly - 'KILL THE BANKERS'!!!

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  59. Anonymous8:30 AM

    Hang each alive by their theirleft testicle (I'm guessing most of them are male) near a place where vultures are hungry.

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  60. Anonymous9:40 PM

    BANKERS GAVE LOANS MADE BILLIONS AND NEW IT WAS BULLSHIT AND HOMES WEREN'T WORTH THE PRICE---THEY ABSOLUTLY KNEW THIS-- THEY KNEW THAT THIS WOULD BLOW UP --- THE GOLDMAN SACHS SHIT IS PROOF OF THAT --THEY ALSO KNEW THIER WAS NO WAY OUR GOV'T COULD LET THEM FAIL IT WAS A WIN -WIN SCAM FOR THEM TO MAKE BILLIONS. WE BOUGHT A HOME A ONE BEDROOM HOME IN SOUTH FL WHICH QUICKLY WAS WORTH LESS THAN HALF IN LESS THAN TWO YEARS-- ITS WAS OUR LIFE SAVINGS 166,000 DOLLARS, THE BANKS THEN GOT BAILED OUT, THEN THOSE FUCKS TOOK MORE BONUS MONEY--- WHAT THE FUCK? --- HOW CAN THAT HAPPEN? HOW DID THE GOV'T NOT HAVE THAT IN CONTRACT--- TWO THINGS CAME TO MIND-- ONE GOV'T IS IN ON IT, OR BANKS ARE JUST SMARTER--- WELL I HAVE A SOLUTION PLEASE STOP AND THINK ABOUT THIS IT CAN WORK---IF ENOUGH AMERICANS JUST STOP PAYING THIER MORTGAGE WE FUCK THEM AND SHIT WILL BLOW BIG I'M TALKING REALLY BIG--- WHAT COULD THEY DO THROW US ALL OUT, THEY'LL BE FUCKED--- ALSO THIS IS MY SECOND PLAN--- IF YOUR LOOSING YOUR HOME DESTROY IT BEFORE YOU LEAVE--- THE DAY THEY COME FOR THIS HOME THERE WILL BE NOTHING LEFT OF IT.NOTHING!!!! DO YOU THINK I'M GOING TO LET THEM RE-SELL MY HOME AND MAKE MORE MONEY ARE YOU FUCKING NUTS! FIRST OUT COME THE TOILETS, IN GOES THE CEMENT, SECOND, DOWN COMES CEILING TURN OFF MAIN BREAKER CUT EVERY WIRE, TAKE IT TO SCAPEYARD FOR COPPER, THEN OUT COMES EVERY SWITCH AND PLUG CUTTING WIRES AS SHORT AS POSSIBLE, THEN I WILL CUT LOWER HALF OF CEILING TRUSSES, GO ON ROOF AND CUT THE TOP ROOF AND WATCH THE ROOF DROP INTO THE HOME, THEN BREAK THE WINDOWS AND TURN ON SPRINKLER AND PUT IN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE HOUSE--- THEN THEY CAN HAVE IT BACK---- WATCH FOR ME ON T.V. THIS WILL BE ON THE NEWS--- CAUSE WHEN I START CUTTING ROOF I'LL CALL NEWS STATIONS,I WANT IT ALL OVER THE COUNTRY--- THOSE FUCKS WON'T BE TAKING ANY BONUS MONEY BY RE-SELLING MY HOME--- AND IF IT REALLY HAPPENS I MEAN PEOPLE WITH GUNS-- ANARCHY---I WILL ALSO BE HUNTING BANKERS, UNMERCIFULLY.

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  61. Wolfgang6:25 PM

    It is easy. You just have to wait to the time when killing bankers is legalized. This will be inevitably the case when in the next inevitable crisis the risks are far too big such that there is no nation or group of nations left that can prevent a total collapse of the financial system and a following social uproar. You know...beheading thousands of the French elite during French revolution proved to be overall beneficial for modern europe. You just have to repeat it and a new era of enlightenment will follow.

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  62. These bankers have done more to erode democracy than any foreign threat. Through bribery and corrupt practises they have securely locked up a significant number of politicians that do their bidding. The Supreme Court, who has also been bought, has passed laws that allow the banking industry to contribute infinite amounts of money to politicians from both parties that support their crimes. The average citizen has no recourse to the injustices that bankers perpetrate since the majority of politicians and Supreme Court judges are on the side of the banking industry. Who is going to put a tax on the banking industry, certainly not the government or the courts? There is no legal recourse left for the average American citizen to address their grievances. People have sat by for too long and done nothing while their constitutional rights were slowly taken away. Unfortunately, when people allow their freedom to be taken away whether by governments or corporations, it is a very difficult thing to get back!

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  63. Anonymous4:29 AM

    u idiots, the only fix is to kill the us, too late, i will die fighting

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  64. Anonymous2:15 PM

    Kill the bankers?....I prefer to shag their sloany daughters up the arse, after I've got them hooked on crack and smack...

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  65. Anonymous9:05 PM

    'kill' the bankers ... buy a safe, bolt it to your closet floor, buy (or polish) a/your gun, withdraw all of your cash, and lets go back to the good ol' days ... and starve them all.

    remember the days when you paid for things in cash and it didn't cost you anything more? now - to get your money out of the bank (you know, the one that makes money off your money and also when you try to withdraw your money?) you are charged for it. and what if i go through the door more than twice a month for the free checking? i get charged for trying to access my money. what the hell has happened here folks?

    you dont have to go to jail to kill a banker - just take away those fat bastard's bread and butter. how about buyasafestarveabanker.com. or something like that? i am sure that url can be bought and a new movement to remove the gangrene can be created by one brave soul. sorry - i'm dealing with my foreclosure and the auction of my home on the city courthouse steps in 2 weeks. no shit.

    despite that, i'm not quite there yet. but if you do plan to take the leap, please (for posterity) do your countrymen a favor - dont waste this wonderful opportunity to take your favorite CEO with you.

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  66. Anonymous5:26 PM

    when and where im with you

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  67. Anonymous3:20 AM

    You are all just like the rest of the apathetic, complacent American public: talk about the problem, but don't do shit to act in an armed revolutionary manner to correct the problem. I am exe special forces with 13 tours of combat and if I could find 12 honorable people who have not sold their souls to fiat currency, I could destroy this American corruption and restore tge constitution we as soldiers swore to protect. Your nothing but cowards.

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  68. People on Welfare are not losers. They are people who did not have a rich mommy and daddy to put them through college so they could become bankers and rip people off just like the bankers are doing now. This world is for the rich bastards and those are bankers and mafia politicians. Bush ripped off the U.S. postal service and started a war to line the pockets of his banker friends and Obama is going right along doing the same thing. Tax payers are the poor and the rich have to pay nothing, I hate this FUCKING WORLD.

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  69. Oh shut up. You whinny snivelly little child.

    Have you ever looked up the statistics to prove your beliefs? You do know the rich pay the majority of the taxes. right? or are you too lazy to grab a damn mouse, click on google and look this up.

    Oh, i'm sorry, that's too much for a childish 20 something to do.

    I'm sorry, continue on with your self-pitying woe-is-meism.

    And while you're doing that, watch how your life will continue to suck.

    Jesus, bunch of freaking pansies this country has brought up.

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  70. nobody6:20 PM

    When the firing squads are formed to murder these swine I want to volunteer. Kill every one of these pigs and make them suffer. Bastards I curse them all to Hell forever.

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  71. Anonymous1:46 PM

    i want to kill them too !!!!

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  72. Anonymous9:02 AM

    so stop talking about doing it and do it!
    Talk is cheap thats what the politicians and corp bankers do,

    the revolution has to start somewhere

    the system is revolting so the people should revolt

    killing a banker isnt murder its a public service, its every human being with a guns duty to mankind!

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  73. Killing them will achieve nothing. There are far more lazy, self entitled brats in the current generation to become "bankers" than the previous generations.

    No, SMART government regulation (not this Dodd Frank crap I get to deal with now) would solve the problem. By "smart" I mean tracking the PEOPLE, the INDIVIDUALS who made bad loans and banning them from ever working in the financial service sector again.

    Though, if you want 13,000 pages of regulations and taxes that will just send business fleeing overseas, be my guest.

    Targeting the individual bankers who made bad loans is the only solution. "Killing all bankers" is not.

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  74. Anonymous2:02 PM

    it is not like it is a federal crime, yet. so best get started.

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  75. Anonymous9:27 AM

    Assassination is the highest form of public service. Make it look like an accident.

    That's what I do!

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  76. Anonymous11:21 AM

    Alot of good comments, but most of you seem to have Stockholm syndrome. I think the author got soft at the end of his article, probably to deffer from the real consequences of calling for the actual death of the oligarchs. I agree with executing this parasitical class for the simple reason that they have literally killed millions with their actions of the decades. Check out Goldmans, manipulation of the grain commodities market and the death their actions rained upon Africa, the body count is in the hundreds of thousands. So calling for the execution of mass murderers? The future of humanity depends on it.

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  77. Your parayers have been answered1 Read the book by Tom Ericson called, The Anger Within. It is available on Kindle and due to be published in paperback;
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Anger-Within-ebook/dp/B00CCGC8W8/ref=sr_1_2?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1366099759&sr=1-2&keywords=The+Anger+Within

    Thasi book says everyhting there is to say abouit the injustice of the bankers and more ... you won't be disappointed.

    Deb

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  78. You, sir, are a hero...

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  79. It's not just the bankers that need to die, it's also the bureaucrats.
    The levels of power are bankers followed by bureaucrats and then politicians.
    Why was Jack Straws bill to get Freemasons out of public life dropped. It's perfectly reasonable not to have secret organizations running the councils of this country, but the bankers and bureaucrats are hand in glove. For example NHS managers get fired then rehired, but nobody knows how many. These people are taking the piss and we must start to take direct action. Before we start printing guns, it would be a good idea if the addresses of Freemasons were published to get the ball rolling.

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  80. Anonymous6:36 PM

    Tell me where we start the march, I'll be beside you with my gun.

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  81. Anonymous2:22 AM

    Yeah, Kill'em!

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  82. Anonymous3:39 AM

    Sorry children. My banker friends LAUGH at your feeble solutions. 1.) Kill us? 2.) Fine us? 3.) Ban us? Here's an old school ROTFLMAO to match that!!! You will kill a few at best. Minor players. (Our STOOGES.) And there are 1,000's wanting that job that will step right into it. Fine us and we go to the FED. Pay ZERO percent. All we want. Free money. Then we'll charge YOU 24% interest on your cards on day 2. Day 3, we just wipe your grandma out again. You can't ban us either. We MAKE the rules via lobbying your for sale lawmakers (who we later give fake jobs in our system). Now; who wants to buy a nice cd at 6%? Sure, inflation runs at 10%. Who cares if you lose 4% on it? Not you. Your our serfs. Our slaves. Deal w it bitches!!!!

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  83. Anonymous9:31 AM

    How is most of humanity so retarded and cannot see this shit. My guess is because half are on welfare?

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  84. though out history the rich (what the hell right have they to install this superiority on themselves other than the fiction of the importance money)and then invariably the poor get angry.

    See French revolution etc etc.

    We have the joke of modern money --a meaningless tangle of bits of toilet paper with words of who owes what printed on.....research this modern designed money phenomena and we can see how we have been duped by a grotesquely shameful system based on debt and misery to then make some so rich beyond all imaginable need. Yes we need human competition it is what makes us amazing and unique on this planet. But considering our supposed evolution into intelligence we can reason a semblance of what is fair and just how much does an individual need?

    Given the arrogance and complacency which ordinary folk are treated and even more so the poor and that the new rich seem not to care and they even suggest that thier actions benefit us all in the end?? (work that theory out if you can)

    My solution to that greed and arrogance is based on their own same rhetoric and arrogance...

    Drag a couple of them out --strap them to lamp post and set fire to them --it would only require one or two and the rest would nip up in fear....

    some will say that to suggest murder is terrible (in truth I am a peace loving fair man and decent man who will give my bread to the hungry) --but by the same theory of the bankers, children in the modern world who have been left hungry or parents who have taken their lives because of the debt and desperation may agree with my theory.

    Capitalism does not have to be at the expense of fundamental fairness

    cp

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  85. I would have literally worshipped you of you did follow through with the idea.

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  86. I.M. Pistoff6:03 PM

    Never mind taxing them; they'll still be alive. Pull the triggers.

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  87. Captain you are absolutely correct. A new Baader Meinhof Gang needs to be formed to save this planet and humanity from the horrors of white collar criminals who rob trillions while most of population struggle in poverty misery and despair which the bankers and their puppet govnts create. The capitlasts hate democracy and wage an intense class war and the many many billions of casualties go unrecognised because the propgnda machine busy pretending everyones ecstatic about the criminal capitlasts. Yes the rich crim elite should all be exterminated. The rightwing corp conservative monarchist status quo is an insult to anyone with half a braincell. Kill them all Revolt!!!!!

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  88. The irony of the successful white collar criminal is they are all bailed out by communist money and government printed money. None of 'their' money is actually theirs yet capitlast rightwing corporate life is venerated as the salvation of mankind while a communist governemnt in USA seen as a crime and impossibility. Wipe out the corp crims!

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  89. Anonymous8:12 PM

    Stop whining. Get your act together, get a law degree, become a judge, join the FBI, or SEC, and go to work. It takes work.

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  90. Anonymous1:15 AM

    Reject modernity, return to monkey.

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