No plans on getting my Mechanical Engineering PhD. I think it would make getting a job more difficult because of how much I'd have to specialize. You just can't get a PhD in ME that covers everything. The field is too broad.
In defense of the teachers, because States require public school teachers to take continuing education (to perpetuate the need for mostly worthless education schools), a larger percentage than other majors go on to get PhDs. Thus when you have say 30% of teachers taking the exams while only say 10% of the other majors, you are bound to have lower scores.
What I'd like to see are the SAT / ACT scores of those who graduate as teachers verses other majors. That would be more fair as all students take those tests, not just those going on to post graduate studies.
Unfortunately, the stupidest grad students will become bureaucrats in our governments, the only place where they are more dangerous than in our childrens' classrooms.
I don't think it is really about how much to the GDP a PHD of any sort adds to the value of society in general.... I think it more important that: 1.) After all those years of study the teacher... the one that influences our children most still have not improved their overall ranking. (Think what the are doing and continue to do to the kids) 2.) There has to be a reason that the Chinese send their kids here to study and master the first 6 - 7 disciplines.. (Already an economic super power just think what will happen when America loses the intellectual edge too..now that is scary) Jim..
Graduate Philosophy is a tough field and since it's so small, it's highly selective. Typically, only Philosophy undergrads go into grad school for that degree while other fields admit a variety of majors. It has more to do with supply and demand of potential grad students in their entirety than the specific components of intellectual rigor and earning potential. Philosophy is a labor of love, hence it's name.
Remember, these are the scores of people who are actually admitted into these fields. If you're turned down, you either go for a PhD in a less selective field or pursue some other career. The majors on the bottom of the chart are a dime a dozen.
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ReplyDeleteSo when are you going for your PhD? ;)
ReplyDeleteNo plans on getting my Mechanical Engineering PhD. I think it would make getting a job more difficult because of how much I'd have to specialize. You just can't get a PhD in ME that covers everything. The field is too broad.
In defense of the teachers, because States require public school teachers to take continuing education (to perpetuate the need for mostly worthless education schools), a larger percentage than other majors go on to get PhDs. Thus when you have say 30% of teachers taking the exams while only say 10% of the other majors, you are bound to have lower scores.
What I'd like to see are the SAT / ACT scores of those who graduate as teachers verses other majors. That would be more fair as all students take those tests, not just those going on to post graduate studies.
Wow, Education moved up from the bottom spot!
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately, the stupidest grad students will become bureaucrats in our governments, the only place where they are more dangerous than in our childrens' classrooms.
Wow - that's a huge difference between Physics and Public Administration.
ReplyDeleteBut a question - if you're really really smart, which would contribute more to GDP - a PHD in Physics or a PHD in Economics?
I'd like to see the same table with a few columns added:
1) the average income of a PHD in each of these fields
I'd like to know if there a correlation between smarts as measured by the GRE and income?
2) the average effect on GDP for a PHD in each of these fields (relative to the other fields).
I'd like to know if these is a correlation between income and effect on GDP.
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ReplyDeleteI don't think it is really about how much to the GDP a PHD of any sort adds to the value of society in general.... I think it more important that:
ReplyDelete1.) After all those years of study the teacher... the one that influences our children most still have not improved their overall ranking. (Think what the are doing and continue to do to the kids)
2.) There has to be a reason that the Chinese send their kids here to study and master the first 6 - 7 disciplines.. (Already an economic super power just think what will happen when America loses the intellectual edge too..now that is scary)
Jim..
Hmmm...what is Philosophy doing above Chem?
ReplyDeleteGraduate Philosophy is a tough field and since it's so small, it's highly selective. Typically, only Philosophy undergrads go into grad school for that degree while other fields admit a variety of majors. It has more to do with supply and demand of potential grad students in their entirety than the specific components of intellectual rigor and earning potential. Philosophy is a labor of love, hence it's name.
ReplyDeleteRemember, these are the scores of people who are actually admitted into these fields. If you're turned down, you either go for a PhD in a less selective field or pursue some other career. The majors on the bottom of the chart are a dime a dozen.
Well, as someone who majored in Philosophy and Economics, I'm feeling pretty good right now:)
ReplyDeleteLast time I looked, Philosophy majors did tend to score very high on the LSAT. Many of my college friends are now lawyers.
Am I the only one disturbed by the fact that those trying to go into medicine get such low scores?
ReplyDeleteCan you post a source and date for this?
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