An "environmental" engineering major (and yes, the quotes were on purpose, because "environmental" engineering isn't a real degree - note "chemistry and calculus is tough!") asks a man for his opinion. And not only does he obey her, he tells her...
the truth.
And in doing so actually treats her as a genuine equal because that is what men do to other men. WE are blunt, we are truthful, and we don't give a damn about your feelings. We just care about getting the job done and done the right, best, and most efficient way. And we know you ladies would have it no other way, because we would NEVER dare to treat you as anything else but true and genuine equals. And that's what you wanted.
Remember, June is "Worthless Degree Awareness Month." And in honor of feminism I say we help prevent women from majoring in worthless degrees and doing our best to help them close that pay gap by forcing them into the trades and STEM.
i want to be pregnant and have children. nothing would be more satisfying than nursing a child i really care about. but the patriarchy is holding me back. its not YOUR right to tell me that men cant be pregnant!
ReplyDeleteguess ill settle for working my ass off to support other peoples children instead.
I'm a chemist. I'm in environmental chemistry for now. I'm also a woman. If she's struggling to make good grades, the time to switch is now.
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ReplyDelete"Sweetie, here's some advice. Most of what you learned in school is nothing but lies. It's pure bull shit. You'll spend the rest of your life realizing it and hopefully you'll realize it before it is too late.
Don't become another rat in the rat race. There's no finish line."
For better or worse, environmental engineering is a real degree. Businesses need to hire engineers to comply with regulations, and some chemicals are harmful if not disposed of properly. It is basically a combination of chemical, mechanical, and civil engineering. At the very least, it is better than anything in the humanities.
ReplyDeleteWe have no reason to think she is struggling, for her "good grades" could mean the highest score in the class which is always a challenge.
That guy Vox is an idiot to think the universe needs humanity. Earth's population of humans is growing, but even if it weren't our DNA is more often replicated by horizontal transfer to bacteria than even the most fecund sexual reproduction. It doesn't matter much how long humanity survives; it will end with a heat death eventually no matter how many kids people have.
ReplyDeletealong the same line....
http://redpilltheory.wordpress.com/2013/06/04/science-fiction-what-price-female-inclusio
I (don't) hate to tell you environmental engineering is a legit engineering field: it’s a branch of civil engineering that mostly has to do with the design of heating, cooling, and ventilating equipment for large buildings. I do note that some greenish courses have been added to the senior year since the last time I looked. http://ceenve.calpoly.edu/media/files/enve-flowchart-2009-2011.pdf
ReplyDeleteNo, No, No. Don't tell them that. Let them spend all that money and time and pursuing lots of hard word to pay for other people kids and the parasites. Work hard. Get a tough career. Work 60 hours a week. You deserve it girl. You're independent;you're powerful and smart.
ReplyDeleteDon't have kids, don't stay home, I f...ing need you to do what I stopped doing. Work your ass off. I love this gig. I feel like Tom Sawyer and loving life.
When I was studying Electrical Engineering the thing that got real old was when we had companies visiting telling us about graduate intake the first question asked every time was "do you have many places for graduate environmental engineers?"
ReplyDeleteThere would always be a pause before they'd give the same answer: "we're not taking any environmental graduates this year".
The question was even asked of a car manufacturer, for frick's sake!
I have a degree in computer science and 34 years of experience as a programmer. I don't have a career. I have a job. It pays the bills so I can live comfortably and enjoy life. If women want careers instead of a life let em have it. When they're in their 70's they can pull out their scrap books and look back on their careers along with their cats. I enjoyed life, I raised my kids as best as I could, I did something with my life. My career will not be remembered after I'm gone.
ReplyDeleteEnvironmental engineering requires a degree in engineering. So, no, people who think chemistry and math are difficult wouldn't be able to obtain said degree. Not just "calculus" but calculus 1,2,3, and then differential equations are required.
ReplyDelete@Alynsley, I too am a female with a chemistry background. Chemical engineering, specifically. I don't know anyone who found the coursework easy. I have known people who lied about the "ease" of effort and then failed out, but no one who obtained a degree (including summa cum laude graduates) claimed it was easy.
ReplyDeleteEnvironmental engineering is real degree.
ReplyDeleteI have noted that where I went to school, there always the fewest women in electrical engineering. Chemical engineering seems to attract many women as well as civil.
Now whether women getting these degrees are really interested in them in the end is another matter. I can't say I was really interesting in working my butt off to support the parasites of the country.
Hey Captain, I hope you respond the the comments to this post. There's seem to be some decently argued points. I hope you don't mind, but I'm going to double as they are kinda separate and want one to be short and leave the other to be winded.
ReplyDeleteWhat I am reading from environmental science, it does sound legitimate. Someone have to purify groundwater or old chemical factories before redevelopment. Engineering women does seem to gravitate to such majors (along with Biomedical and other nature-y sounding engineering) despite it does not seem any less learning of hard science or math, the field has its value.
Thus, unless you point something out to me, it kinda sounds like you are knocking the major as worthless just because of the word "Environment" without personal experience of the field or checking its post-graduation jobs.
The second post is a question to you Captain about the role of women with jobs and society. While this could be written directly to Vox as he's the one writing to her about it. You seem to be implicitly endorsing his stance by the link. And unlike Vox, I been following your blog and your posts. I care of your thoughts. I have a hunch this will be too long that you would respond, but I figure out how to be concise.
ReplyDeleteThe girl's aim is contesting against his idea of ending the right to vote for women. Her argument is weak as she tryies to appeal to emotion. This make it easy for Vox to refute as an appeal to emotion really only matters to people who cares about her as a person.
However, I am more interested in the moral/logical thoughts. She didn't argued it (or not well) but it's there. The point about women's vote is not about just the right to put in the .000000001% voice in government. The ability to vote is the representation of the validity of the person as a political/societal actor. So saying women should not be able to vote is indirectly saying something like "not a valid human being". So anger to the statement is understandable. Regardless of the argument such vote is leading to destruction - no individual would like to be peg based on categorized group.
Many manosphere thoughts does seem to point to an end of validity and thus end of vote. Yet, I have a hard time reconciling that ultimate conclusion while there are also women who does not seem to deserve that categorization. So far, I think only Heartiste/Roissy talks hard about the vote (and this guy now). Many others have not quite said it, at least at point blank. There are also a number of respected manosphere female commentators/bloggers. I don't know their stance so far either.
Sorry cap, but saying environmental engineering isn't "real" is extremely stupid. Someone has to know how to regulate sewage, treat wastewater, deal with hazardous materials and other important jobs.
ReplyDeleteAs for you thinking calc and chem being not tough, I'd like to see how fast you can solve Schrodinger's wave equation in spherical coordinates without a computer.
My environmental engineering degree from years ago concentrated in areas that used to be called civil engineering, specifically water and wastewater treatment plants. Clearly, the engineering school figured that by calling this stuff 'environment engineering' rather than 'civil engineering' it'd sound more appealing.
ReplyDeleteOf course, environmental 'studies,' environmental 'science,' and environmental 'policy' all do fall into the worthless degree category.
Fluid mechanics *is* hard. Some Universities even teach it before a proper introduction to tensors, which can kick the living crap out of someone who isn't ready for it.
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