employed,
kidless,
non-tattooed,
non-pierced,
non-obese, conservative or libertarian woman
who wants to support her future husband instead of nag him to death.
Priceless. I am married to one. Caveat: "Employed" is a matter of perspective. She spent 24 years home-schooling four kids. No harder or more important a job in the world. After that she reactivated her nursing license and is now working full-time.
This would be an opportunity cost analysis where you compare the horror-story of modern marriage vs the idealized traditional option. - cost of education for both types of wife - cost of raising children over a lifetime (assume some number such as two) - direct economic contribution to household via employment or business - cost of needless consumption vs wise use of resources - healthcare costs between the two both personal and for family - cost of living in a disorganized house where you can't find anything
I am quite certain the economic value over a lifetime is considerable if one is determined to be married and have children. Of course traditional teaching has considerable wisdom to offer such as proverbs 9:14, "A prudent wife is a gift from God." There is a longer practical description from King Lemuel in proverbs 31:10-31, "A wife of noble character ... is worth far more than rubies."
I want to see a face first. I'm not paying per face on that one, but I'd pay a reasonable subscription model ($10/month?)
From there, to buy a full body photo and some basic biographical information: $50.
Having seen that if I elect to buy a referral: $500.
Now, if you could find some way to escrow sex without it being literally prostitution, we could talk bigger numbers. But just for a referral alone for one date, $500.
The value will change wildly with each and some people are more willing to shell out for different qualities.
Post them anonymously with a bullet list of qualities that the captain can verify.
No picture, the captain rates them 1-10 with and gives a two sentence description.
Men bid for two weeks for the opportunity to date them. High bid gets first date, if it doesn't work out he gets to leave a review and second highest bid gets the option assuming both are still interested.
Since you can't realistically put a price on another human being lets just say that a woman as described is worth $1,000.
What we can do from there is order the traits by their undesirableness.
unemployed ( as in not very employable) take off $500 with kids take off $100 tattooed take off $250 pierced take off $250 Overweight take of $100, Obese take off $800 Liberal (leans left) take off $500, Radical lefty I wouldn't take her if you paid me. who berates, nags and man bashes take off $900
These are cumulative. So for example a woman that is employed, kidless, non-tattooed, non-pierced, non-obese, conservative or libertarian but who berates, nags and man bashes is only worth $100. But if that same woman also has piercings and tattoos, then she is worth -$400.
Older guy and not "in the market" (32+ years of marriage), but were I in looking at your service, I'd probably be willing to pay $50 for the introduction, and if marriage resulted, I'd gift you at least $500, maybe $1,000.
I'm not a businessman, and my formal education was STEM-based and a long time ago, so I don't have the jargon to hand, but I'd say that it depends on who you market to.
To a marriage-minded man unplugged from the Matrix, priceless. To the Millennial who emulates a Japanese teenage girl in mannerisms and pop-culture pursuits, not very much. Put another way, 18-year old me would have been less interested, because a quality woman puts a high premium on consenting to sex, and in the modern era there has been no shortage of women who place minimal value on engaging in sex as a social activity. Thankfully I met my wife at the right time, after 18-year old me grew up a little.
In the smaller, out-of-the-way places, women like this are more common, though not all THAT common, if you get me. Moral formation of such a woman requires a 2-parent household, and doesn't that gall the legion of women-from-broken-homes who treated their vagina like an America Online CD when they were young.
I am not sure, because that is the search I am conducting myself. When I was in my 20's I had very bad luck with the typical "American" women and ended up importing my traditional Canadian bride. We introduced many of her unmarried friends to my friends and many happy, and long-lasting matches resulted. However, I do not feel that I would be successful in finding a similar traditional spouse from current Canadian stock from the two remaining unmarried children we have.
The issue with my son is how to sort out the "gold-diggers" from the sincere.
Our youngest daughter, an Olympic track athlete, a former teen model and currently a rising Junior at an elite school pursuing a Mech Eng degree with a minor in Comp Sci (Inducted into numerous academic honor societies and eminently employable upon graduation) and a sweetheart who can, and wants, to keep a traditional home finds that the men in her general dating pool all are seeking what she terms the "airhead, shallow cheer leader types" and seem threatened by a girl who may be as smart as they are and were horrified when she cut her hair for a "donate your hair to cancer" challenge and immediately moved her from the "hot" to "friend zone" box. So I am not sure that the men who state they want a "traditional" girl (my daughter, unlike my wife, knows her way around a firearm) who is smart, beautiful, in good shape, employable, and not willing to be a whore or alcoholic, and my daughter is not interested in men who are so shallow that short hair vs. long tresses (and not in a butch type cut) are "deal killers".
So it appears that we are going further afield in our search to find a suitable match for both - Central Europe so far seems to be our best hope to find traditional mates for both.
Good luck on your venture Cappy, you will be fulfilling a much needed service.
To a man who knows the value of one, it's priceless, and nothing else will do. Sadly, the majority of people are too stupid to know the value of one until after they have had their guts ripped out by a divorce court.
Clarey, I am not in the market, but I would say your best bet to maximize on this is to have auction. I suspect you have a good number of silent readers here who haven't commented but would likely be interested in finding a decent woman. Get the women to put together some appropriately representative photos of themselves along with a bio and open those profiles up to some bids.
This is the only advice you are getting from me for free. Next time send me an email and I will put together a quote.
I am married to one now, but in the past I would have paid $50 for a blind date with a quality girl of comparable attractiveness number to me, assuming you can consistently maintain the quality of your service. Refunds would have to be issued for duds. I would have been willing to pay a few hundred dollars later on if a relationship resulted and lasted more than a couple months. I would have been willing to pay up to $2000 more after a year of marriage. One very important factor you didn't mention is weddings. The woman cannot require a costly, complicated, or drama filled wedding.
Women of rare ethnicities might be able to fetch more. I know some weebs who would pay a lot more for a first or second generation Japanese woman.
Women who faithfully observe a certain religion might be able to fetch more. I know a guy who will only consider observant Protestant girls. No pew-sitting "Christmas and Easter" types.
Some commenters seem to simultaneously want a virgin and a girl who will put out before marriage. You can't have your cake and fuck it too. Perhaps consider partitioning your service into two groups: Brand New and Low Mileage Used.
"Mike said... To a man who knows the value of one, it's priceless, and nothing else will do. Sadly, the majority of people are too stupid to know the value of one until after they have had their guts ripped out by a divorce court."
Which makes you damaged goods and not at all attractive. If you can't choose wisely, why would a women who values stability and traditional values want to take a risk with that?
I would be willing to spend up to $1000 for an introduction that led to marriage. For that fee, there would have to be a full background/credit/criminal check included etc in addition to other criteria, including some sort of verification that the intro was in fact, looking for marriage and to build a traditional home based in traditional values.
The men I have met are for the most part shallow and not worthy of my time. But I meet your "criteria" such as it were.
I came up with this years ago when figuring out what I would have to save and spend for a family:
50% percent of succes-woman/wife or divorce rate AT LEAST 7200 cost to find a wife/24 women is average times 3 dates average per woman to find if you are attracted enough for love 1500 cost to get a woman to engaged/married-14 dates average 8700 Total to get married
average length of marriage is 8 years AT LEAST 200,000 cost of divorce - HALF YOUR MONEY
costs of a wife and two kids 8700 Total to get married 245000 avg child cost 245000 avg child cost AT LEAST 200,000 cost of divorce - HALF YOUR MONEY 698700 Total costs of finding wife and marriage and kids
so, if you can get a conservative woman who is likely to stayed married to you, help with expenses by having a job, desire to live on a budget and not spoil the kids, you get to not give away money in a divorce and save on the kids. a good conservative, budget minded wife seems woirth at least 250k to me.
I give even the most traditional woman a value of zero because she is also infected by the feminist mind virus. Hypergamy as you know cuts across all socioeconomic classes and educational levels and she can frivorce the guy and monkey branch to another anytime. I am also saddened to see that conservative parents are also infected by this virus by pushing the you go girl in their daughters. For example, the anonymous above extolling the virtues of her brilliant daughter in a STEM discipline bemoaning the fact that her dating pool has shrunk or is zero. This wont be any different after she graduates either. Given that she is a high achiever, graduate degrees up to a PhD is possible. Then, she would have spent her most fertile years slaving at a PhD and at the end of it ask the much touted question,where have all the good men gone? I do not blame the young men in her classes going after the shallow girls because they are much fun and less to worry about. As someone said not too longer ago, one wants a help meet and partner and not a coworker. It does not matter how much of sweetheart she is, hypergamy dictates that she marry up, while the guys will marry across the socioeconomic spectrum. With a PhD in Engineering in arm comes the big ego and that I think no man wants to put up with that. I think, most don't care about a woman's degrees, young men would instinctively think about fertility and family formation. Since a woman losses 90% of her eggs by 27yrs of age, according to the Royal College of OBGYN where its president took a lot of heat for that comment. She recommended that women not wait till their 30's to form a family and earlier they start the better. The consequence of geriatric pregnancies in the UK has resulted in the increase of Down's Syndrome babies. In the end it is fertility that takes precedence over STEM degrees and Phi Beta Cappa memberships. STEM degrees get obsolete by the time one graduates as knowledge is growing at a rate of every 4yrs. I maybe incorrect on this fact. By the way Mormon women have been infected with the feminist mind virus and their divorce rate is no better than the secular divorce rate.
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Priceless!
ReplyDeletePriceless. I am married to one. Caveat: "Employed" is a matter of perspective. She spent 24 years home-schooling four kids. No harder or more important a job in the world. After that she
ReplyDeletereactivated her nursing license and is now working full-time.
As the old Mastercard tagline used to say: Priceless!
ReplyDeleteThis would be an opportunity cost analysis where you compare the horror-story of modern marriage vs the idealized traditional option.
ReplyDelete- cost of education for both types of wife
- cost of raising children over a lifetime (assume some number such as two)
- direct economic contribution to household via employment or business
- cost of needless consumption vs wise use of resources
- healthcare costs between the two both personal and for family
- cost of living in a disorganized house where you can't find anything
I am quite certain the economic value over a lifetime is considerable if one is determined to be married and have children. Of course traditional teaching has considerable wisdom to offer such as proverbs 9:14, "A prudent wife is a gift from God." There is a longer practical description from King Lemuel in proverbs 31:10-31, "A wife of noble character ... is worth far more than rubies."
6 feet, 6 Pack, 6 figures at least
ReplyDeleteWhat would you pay?
ReplyDeleteHere's what I'd want.
I want to see a face first. I'm not paying per face on that one, but I'd pay a reasonable subscription model ($10/month?)
From there, to buy a full body photo and some basic biographical information: $50.
Having seen that if I elect to buy a referral: $500.
Now, if you could find some way to escrow sex without it being literally prostitution, we could talk bigger numbers. But just for a referral alone for one date, $500.
Easy.
ReplyDeleteThe value will change wildly with each and some people are more willing to shell out for different qualities.
Post them anonymously with a bullet list of qualities that the captain can verify.
No picture, the captain rates them 1-10 with and gives a two sentence description.
Men bid for two weeks for the opportunity to date them. High bid gets first date, if it doesn't work out he gets to leave a review and second highest bid gets the option assuming both are still interested.
She gets 10% of the bid after the date.
Depends on how old she is.
ReplyDelete18-25, beyond rubies and pearls.
25+ careerist manjawed shrike. No matter how good she might look, there's a reason she didn't marry younger.
Should also add "Without a university degree." That one attribute alone is not traditional and leads to all of those effects noted.
The canonical answer is "a price beyond rubies".
ReplyDeleteMy thoughts:
ReplyDeleteSince you can't realistically put a price on another human being lets just say that a woman as described is worth $1,000.
What we can do from there is order the traits by their undesirableness.
unemployed ( as in not very employable) take off $500
with kids take off $100
tattooed take off $250
pierced take off $250
Overweight take of $100, Obese take off $800
Liberal (leans left) take off $500, Radical lefty I wouldn't take her if you paid me.
who berates, nags and man bashes take off $900
These are cumulative. So for example a woman that is employed, kidless, non-tattooed, non-pierced, non-obese, conservative or libertarian but who berates, nags and man bashes is only worth $100. But if that same woman also has piercings and tattoos, then she is worth -$400.
Such a service would start at 20 grand
ReplyDeleteOlder guy and not "in the market" (32+ years of marriage), but were I in looking at your service, I'd probably be willing to pay $50 for the introduction, and if marriage resulted, I'd gift you at least $500, maybe $1,000.
ReplyDelete5,000/6,000
ReplyDeleteI'm not a businessman, and my formal education was STEM-based and a long time ago, so I don't have the jargon to hand, but I'd say that it depends on who you market to.
ReplyDeleteTo a marriage-minded man unplugged from the Matrix, priceless. To the Millennial who emulates a Japanese teenage girl in mannerisms and pop-culture pursuits, not very much.
Put another way, 18-year old me would have been less interested, because a quality woman puts a high premium on consenting to sex, and in the modern era there has been no shortage of women who place minimal value on engaging in sex as a social activity. Thankfully I met my wife at the right time, after 18-year old me grew up a little.
In the smaller, out-of-the-way places, women like this are more common, though not all THAT common, if you get me. Moral formation of such a woman requires a 2-parent household, and doesn't that gall the legion of women-from-broken-homes who treated their vagina like an America Online CD when they were young.
How much is she asking?
ReplyDeleteI am not sure, because that is the search I am conducting myself. When I was in my 20's I had very bad luck with the typical "American" women and ended up importing my traditional Canadian bride. We introduced many of her unmarried friends to my friends and many happy, and long-lasting matches resulted. However, I do not feel that I would be successful in finding a similar traditional spouse from current Canadian stock from the two remaining unmarried children we have.
ReplyDeleteThe issue with my son is how to sort out the "gold-diggers" from the sincere.
Our youngest daughter, an Olympic track athlete, a former teen model and currently a rising Junior at an elite school pursuing a Mech Eng degree with a minor in Comp Sci (Inducted into numerous academic honor societies and eminently employable upon graduation) and a sweetheart who can, and wants, to keep a traditional home finds that the men in her general dating pool all are seeking what she terms the "airhead, shallow cheer leader types" and seem threatened by a girl who may be as smart as they are and were horrified when she cut her hair for a "donate your hair to cancer" challenge and immediately moved her from the "hot" to "friend zone" box. So I am not sure that the men who state they want a "traditional" girl (my daughter, unlike my wife, knows her way around a firearm) who is smart, beautiful, in good shape, employable, and not willing to be a whore or alcoholic, and my daughter is not interested in men who are so shallow that short hair vs. long tresses (and not in a butch type cut) are "deal killers".
So it appears that we are going further afield in our search to find a suitable match for both - Central Europe so far seems to be our best hope to find traditional mates for both.
Good luck on your venture Cappy, you will be fulfilling a much needed service.
"What's the Market Value of a Traditional Woman?"
ReplyDeleteThat would depend on the divorce settlement.
200$
ReplyDeleteRevised, 500 for a no guarante date.
ReplyDeleteTo a man who knows the value of one, it's priceless, and nothing else will do. Sadly, the majority of people are too stupid to know the value of one until after they have had their guts ripped out by a divorce court.
ReplyDeleteClarey, I am not in the market, but I would say your best bet to maximize on this is to have auction. I suspect you have a good number of silent readers here who haven't commented but would likely be interested in finding a decent woman. Get the women to put together some appropriately representative photos of themselves along with a bio and open those profiles up to some bids.
ReplyDeleteThis is the only advice you are getting from me for free. Next time send me an email and I will put together a quote.
Cheers!
I am married to one now, but in the past I would have paid $50 for a blind date with a quality girl of comparable attractiveness number to me, assuming you can consistently maintain the quality of your service. Refunds would have to be issued for duds. I would have been willing to pay a few hundred dollars later on if a relationship resulted and lasted more than a couple months. I would have been willing to pay up to $2000 more after a year of marriage. One very important factor you didn't mention is weddings. The woman cannot require a costly, complicated, or drama filled wedding.
ReplyDeleteWomen of rare ethnicities might be able to fetch more. I know some weebs who would pay a lot more for a first or second generation Japanese woman.
Women who faithfully observe a certain religion might be able to fetch more. I know a guy who will only consider observant Protestant girls. No pew-sitting "Christmas and Easter" types.
Some commenters seem to simultaneously want a virgin and a girl who will put out before marriage. You can't have your cake and fuck it too. Perhaps consider partitioning your service into two groups: Brand New and Low Mileage Used.
"Mike said...
ReplyDeleteTo a man who knows the value of one, it's priceless, and nothing else will do. Sadly, the majority of people are too stupid to know the value of one until after they have had their guts ripped out by a divorce court."
Which makes you damaged goods and not at all attractive. If you can't choose wisely, why would a women who values stability and traditional values want to take a risk with that?
I would be willing to spend up to $1000 for an introduction that led to marriage. For that fee, there would have to be a full background/credit/criminal check included etc in addition to other criteria, including some sort of verification that the intro was in fact, looking for marriage and to build a traditional home based in traditional values.
The men I have met are for the most part shallow and not worthy of my time. But I meet your "criteria" such as it were.
Consider the following equation:
ReplyDeletefine = harm * probability of being caught
which implies this
cost of dating service = value of traditional wife * probability that she will be the one
(a = b*c)
if c < 0.05, and b > 1*10^9, then a > 5*10^7
So I **should** be wiling to pay in excess of $50,000,000. But I only wish to pay $75 minimum.
I came up with this years ago when figuring out what I would have to save and spend for a family:
ReplyDelete50% percent of succes-woman/wife or divorce rate
AT LEAST 7200 cost to find a wife/24 women is average times 3 dates average per woman to find if you are attracted enough for love
1500 cost to get a woman to engaged/married-14 dates average
8700 Total to get married
average length of marriage is 8 years
AT LEAST 200,000 cost of divorce - HALF YOUR MONEY
costs of a wife and two kids
8700 Total to get married
245000 avg child cost
245000 avg child cost
AT LEAST 200,000 cost of divorce - HALF YOUR MONEY
698700 Total costs of finding wife and marriage and kids
so, if you can get a conservative woman who is likely to stayed married to you, help with expenses by having a job, desire to live on a budget and not spoil the kids, you get to not give away money in a divorce and save on the kids. a good conservative, budget minded wife seems woirth at least 250k to me.
Mr. Hassan
ReplyDeleteI will offer 25 camels and 2 Persian rugs. Extra 2 rugs and 5 camels if she is blonde with blue eyes. Call me if you find.
PS- No fat chicks!
All these valuations bring back to mind that women used to come with a dowry. And status/connections.
ReplyDeleteShe used to be cash positive from the start, if you were above peasant class.
I give even the most traditional woman a value of zero because she is also infected by the feminist mind virus. Hypergamy as you know cuts across all socioeconomic classes and educational levels and she can frivorce the guy and monkey branch to another anytime.
ReplyDeleteI am also saddened to see that conservative parents are also infected by this virus by pushing the you go girl in their daughters. For example, the anonymous above extolling the virtues of her brilliant daughter in a STEM discipline bemoaning the fact that her dating pool has shrunk or is zero. This wont be any different after she graduates either. Given that she is a high achiever, graduate degrees up to a PhD is possible. Then, she would have spent her most fertile years slaving at a PhD and at the end of it ask the much touted question,where have all the good men gone? I do not blame the young men in her classes going after the shallow girls because they are much fun and less to worry about. As someone said not too longer ago, one wants a help meet and partner and not a coworker. It does not matter how much of sweetheart she is, hypergamy dictates that she marry up, while the guys will marry across the socioeconomic spectrum. With a PhD in Engineering in arm comes the big ego and that I think no man wants to put up with that. I think, most don't care about a woman's degrees, young men would instinctively think about fertility and family formation. Since a woman losses 90% of her eggs by 27yrs of age, according to the Royal College of OBGYN where its president took a lot of heat for that comment. She recommended that women not wait till their 30's to form a family and earlier they start the better. The consequence of geriatric pregnancies in the UK has resulted in the increase of Down's Syndrome babies. In the end it is fertility that takes precedence over STEM degrees and Phi Beta Cappa memberships. STEM degrees get obsolete by the time one graduates as knowledge is growing at a rate of every 4yrs. I maybe incorrect on this fact. By the way Mormon women have been infected with the feminist mind virus and their divorce rate is no better than the secular divorce rate.
It just occur to me that I have not done the right thing since when my husband came back to me, I am on this blog to give thanks to whom it deserve, Some couples of weeks ago my life was in a terrible shape because my husband left me and I never believe that I was going to get him back, But through the help of this powerful spell caster called Dr.Ekpen my life is now in a joyful mood, I must recommend the services of Dr.Ekpen to anyone out there that they should contact Dr.Ekpen through these details below: ( ekpentemple@gmail.com ) or whatsapp +2347050270218 because through Dr.Ekpen assistance my marriage was restored.
ReplyDelete