OK, once again, for the people in the nose bleed section;
GLOBAL WARMING PEOPLE ARE IDIOTS!
End of story.
Statement of fact.
Truth as only the truth could be.
So I found a web site where you can go and look at Ice Core/bore holes where they try to estimate the temperature from those bore samples. Go ahead, check it out for yourself. ESPECIALLY if you're one of these morons that believe in global warming but never bothered to look up the actual data and instead liked the idea of sticking it to the capitalists of the world (which is your primary impetus in pushing such tripe anyway).
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/recons.html
They hide it pretty well and really push those 500-1000 year old data sets that show you the general trend upward in global warming and why we should continue our assault on capitalism.
Of course that's 500 to 1,000 years of Earth's 4 billion year history.
What’s really neat is if you actually get some perspective and look at temperatures going back to say, 49,000 or 412,000 years ago and see what a bunch of BS this global warming conspiracy is. John Stossel’s new book put me on to it. Pretty good book. Seems to upset a lot of people. But truth has a tendency of doing that.
Oh, and just out of curiosity I pulled Greenland's temperatures and threw them into a chart.
Don't ask my why it gets so unvolatile around 10.3 thousand years ago. This science as you probably already know, is prone to errors in measurement, sanity, truth and logic.
Catallarchy had a nice post explaining this, here, earlier in the week. Take a peek.
ReplyDeleteYeah, I saw that Vostok data, 412,000 years.
ReplyDeleteIt was a little much to download and chart in Excel. Had to settle for the 49,000 year deal.
Yeah, we should look at the 400,000 year data to make sense of the sudden warming that has occurred since we started burning fossil fuels in a serious way in the past couple hundred years.
ReplyDeleteThat makes sense.
If you're an idiot.
BTW, The unvolatility that began 10,000 years ago is the Holocene Era, an unusually long interglacial period that is responsible for the development of human civilization.
An unusually long interglacial that we have no clue what caused.
That could end any time.
That we really really shouldn't be screwing around with by dumping greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere.
But I guess you're content to blame everything on those damn liberals.
Yeah, we should look at the 400,000 year data to make sense of the sudden warming that has occurred since we started burning fossil fuels in a serious way in the past couple hundred years.
ReplyDeleteThat makes sense.
If you're an idiot.
No, it makes perfect sense, in that it places our pitiful contributions in the proper perspective: That the degree or two we raise is chump change to the potential 20 or so degree change mother nature can throw.
BTW, The unvolatility that began 10,000 years ago is the Holocene Era, an unusually long interglacial period that is responsible for the development of human civilization.
An unusually long interglacial that we have no clue what caused.
That could end any time.
That we really really shouldn't be screwing around with by dumping greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere.
Hey, you're dumping greenhouse gas into the air just by breathing. Better start holding your breath before you end the interglacial period with your something odd 70 years of existance.
But I guess you're content to blame everything on those damn liberals.
I fail to see how this is relevant. He's not pointing at those damn liberals specifically, he's arguing against those damn idiots who constantly predict our doom every two years or so. After all, it's not like those damn liberals have a monopoly on stupidity.
Actually anonymous, looking at the 400,000 year old data could help prove that we've had sudden warming as a result of burning fossil fuels. If all's well up until we start burning fossil fuels, at which point temperatures shoot upwards, you have evidence in a case against the use of fossil fuels. If it only causes a slight blip, then there's more to the global warming thing than we've thought. In other words, looking at the 400,000 year-old data to help understand modern warming is actually useful, even if you aren't an idiot.
ReplyDelete"BTW, The unvolatility that began 10,000 years ago is the Holocene Era, an unusually long interglacial period that is responsible for the development of human civilization.
ReplyDeleteAn unusually long interglacial that we have no clue what caused.
That could end any time."
Maybe the terrible green house gases are what is prolonging the unusually long interglacial that could end at any time. Are you in favor of glaciation?
Now how about you go back and look at the early Tertiary period and tell us about the climate then. Tell about the polar ice caps (I'll help, there weren't any).
The whole global warming craze is based on computerized guessing and self-serving politics.
Although I don't remember where I saw the program, there was some data that showed the holes in the ozone layer were caused by an earthly effect of the poles shifting. Meaning, magnetic North wasn't always north. The past x-thousand years (10?) have been stable, and that happened to coincide with human civilization advancing. A couple thousand years before the poles shift, there's strange things that happen to the Earth, like ozone holes forming and disappearing mysteriously, and higher temperatures on the planet.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the blog! Its a great site!
Hoss, global warming has been established in that there is scientific evidence that the Earth warms and cools at various (although not necessarily regular) cycles. What hasn't been firmly established is what (if any) effect has human activity had on this PRE-EXISTING, NATURAL phenomenon. Here's where I say looking at the 400,000 year old data helps, it puts into perspective the effect human consumption of fossil fuels has.
ReplyDeleteLooking at the graph, it appears that starting about 2.5 thousand years ago, the overall trend has been for the temperature in Greenland to be cooler, not warmer. There appears to be a short spike between 1.2 and .6 thousand years ago, and again about .1 thousand years ago, although the rightmost edge of the graph seems to be a horizontal line, indicating the temperature in Greenland stabilized very soon after the spike, and is still down from where it was about 10.3 thousand years ago. It appears we're actually going through a slight cooling now, which may indicate that the Earth's climate is naturally shifting to a cooling phase from a warming phase.
So the temperature on mars has been rising the same as earths, along with most of the planets in our solar system...is our man made CO2 levels effecting them also?
ReplyDeleteNuff said
So the temperature on mars has been rising the same as earths, along with most of the planets in our solar system...is our man made CO2 levels effecting them also?
ReplyDeletenuff said
Great job. Great graph, great everything. Also, only 1/2500 of our atmosphere is carbon dioxide, so that kind of throws away the whole theory there.
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