Where Have All the Good Men Gone? Well...Right Here, Madame.
The first client was a high-end programmer who was bringing in a handsome salary in Austria. He was 33, no debt, had his own place, and was in decent enough shape to turn ahead or two. He spent his time traveling, enjoying life, sampling various cuisines in Europe, but he also enjoyed sampling something else - Austrian women.
Not that he was dating them. They were prostitutes. Prostitution is surprisingly legal in an otherwise stuffy country like Austria. And he would have one or two prostitutes a month, allowing him to satisfy his sexual urges, as well as getting a variety of women which is at the core of all male genetic programming. He could have gotten a girl through "traditional methods," but didn't want to waste the time because it was just easier, cheaper, and higher quality, to pay $150 Euro for a tight, in shape, 20 something to show up in a cute lingerie outfit, have sex with him,...and inevitably leave without drama or antics at the end.
His problem was that he wanted to get married and knew that these girls were not the type to bring home to mom. But every time he tried to find a quality woman, it was simply "no dice." The majority of women he ran into were typically leftist, obsessed about their careers, had no interest in marriage, and weren't exactly marriage material either. After a decade-and-change of failing to find wife material, he wondered if his life would be OK if he just kept sleeping with hot, lingerie-clad, 20 something prostitutes each month. I laughingly concurred, saying such a life would be "alright," but warned him that the inevitable desire to find one quality woman and have a family would never go away.
The second client was also from Europe. He was living in a decent flat, bought and paid for, as well as $600,000 cash. He was also handsomely compensated bringing in over $125,000 a year, for a job he could do wherever from his laptop, and thus he traveled extensively.
Like the first client, he too inevitably wanted to know if there was more to life than just being rich, successful, well-fed, and well-traveled. And though he did make forays into the dating market, he had been burned enough by enough ex-girlfriends that he had become increasingly skeptical of wanting to get married. He wanted to know if there was anything else to life, and if there were any quality women to marry. I informed him "no" and "likely not, but leave a line out anyway," nudging another six-figured "good man" to leave the dating market.
The third client was today. He was a traveling doctor. 35, in shape, no debt, regular gym attendee, and had over 30 countries stamped on his passport. He had thoroughly enjoyed his life, his career, and his adventures. But even this jet-setting lifestyle, afforded to him by his $500,000 salary, was getting tiring. He wanted to know if there was more to life than living la vida loca, to which I asked, "Did you ever want to get married or was it kind of 'meh' in terms of your to do list?" He said he wouldn't have minded, but every girl he dated in his large leftist town was (*shock*) a leftist girl, obsessed about her career, and wasn't the type of girl he would bring home to mom. I said, "yes, this is all there is to life, unless you wanted to start a family. But if you wanted to start a family, leave a line out, but have no hope."
There were more clients. Matter of fact they're likely numbering double digits now. But there is a noticeable trend where there are HIGHLY successful men, all making well above six figures, all financially stable, all in decent shape, who are looking for something more in life than just being rich and enjoying it. Most are looking for a wife and children. Most want to start families. And there are no better-qualified individuals than these men to be husbands and fathers. But when they try to find a future "Mrs. Successful," the "Wife Material Menu" is rather poor. Matter of fact, there isn't a selection at all. Because just like Henry Ford said you can have any color car you want as long as it was black, men can have any woman they want as a wife as long as she's an NPC leftst, because that is all that is on the market - NPC, leftist women.
The only problem?
NPC leftist women are incapable of being quality wives or mothers, and thus the quandary of all these most-eligible-bachelors.
How Many Trillions Did You Spent?
This is not a debate. This is not me being snarky or sarcastic. It is a very REAL fact men are facing today when it comes to marriage - that the only younger women out there to date and potentially marry up are all brainwashed, leftist, NPC women. They ALL vote democrat. They ALL are feminists. They ALL put their career above everything else. They ALL have crippling debts. They ALL have dubious careers. And to any man who takes having a wife and forming a family seriously, these women are simply unqualified for the job. This isn't to say literally "all" women are like this (there are engineers, accountants, and traditional women), but the statistics are so skewed, so bad, there is effectively no choice for most men today. I roughly estimate less than 5% of the female population are conditioned AND CAPABLE of being a wife an mother, which falls incredibly short of the 82% of men who wish to marry. Ergo, you can have your Ford in any color you want, as long as it's black. And most men today can have wife as long as she's an NPC leftist.
But did you ever wonder how women became so standardized, common, democrat, and (ultimately) boring? Did you ever wonder why there's truly NO diversity in thought, life-goals, and life-philosophy among young women? Did you ever wonder why ALL of them want a career, an education, a party-lifestyle, shoes, handbags, and none of them want a husband or children? Well, allow me to ask you a question:
How many trillions did you spend training and programming women to be good wives and mothers?
The reason I ask this question is because while it seems absurd (why would you spend any resources programming women to be anything?), trillions have, in fact, been spent on programming, training, and ultimately indoctrinating women into becoming NPC leftists.
The K-College education industry alone has spent trillions of dollars over the past 50 years indoctrinating women to become men, putting their careers ahead of family, their educations ahead of individuals, and their politics ahead of love. Certainly the lion's share of all education budgets since the 1960's has been dedicated towards actual education. But if you look at the feminist indoctrination young girls received in K-College to put their careers above all else, you can in an accounting-like-sense attribute at least a couple trillion towards a clear and obvious intent to make women want to be wage-slaves, while belittling, even criminalizing being a wife and a mother.
While trillions of actual dollars have been invested in turning women into NPC, leftist, worker drones, what about the trillions of human hours also invested in conditioning women to become NPC leftists? From teachers to guidance counselors to professors to government PSA's to media to women's magazines to women's studies departments to Jezebel and XOJane to even your own parents, it's impossible to calculate how many millions of women (and men) spent thousands of hours of their lives, promoting and propagandizing hundreds of millions of women over the past 50 years to abandon being wives and mothers and instead be good, little, obedient, debt-laden careerist NPC democrats. Matter of fact, I can't think of a single larger expenditure of time in all of the US that comes even close to the resources we've spent conditioning women to become NPC leftists. There has never been such a large, nation-wide, institution-wide push to form, program, and ultimately mold a people into something the powers that be want.
And I don't even know how to begin to measure the total resources spent by media, marketing, and advertisers to sell women the "empowered-don't-need-no-man-brave-executive" image all so women can buy $5,000 Prada handbags, $10,000 Chanel shoes, and $250,000 masters degree. Be it movies showing the strong independent woman, or Silicon Valley fawning over the latest female CEO hire, or all of the MSM worshiping Hillary Clinton during the election, the entire entertainment/media/social-media world only reinforces to women today that the ONLY thing that matters is your career, your leftist politics, and your feminism. Being a wife or a mother doesn't even come up on the radar.
Now I could go on citing other instances where resources have been purposely spent on conditioning women to become NPC's, but my larger point is how much has been spent on conditioning women to become good wives? How many trillions in education budgets have been spent on teaching women to be good mothers? And what institutions of our society (government, educational, media, corporate, etc.) actively promote motherhood and wifery?
And the answer is "none." Not one cent, not one second, NOT EVEN BY THE PARENTS OF WOMEN THEMSELVES, is spent preparing, educating, explaining, or conditioning young women to be wives and mothers.
Of course, many women (being the conformist NPC leftists they are) will champion this. They will celebrate it, pointing out that they are now officially "free" to do what they want and are no longer shackled to the evil patriarchal expectations of being a wife and mother.
But that is not the point of this article. The point of this article is merely one of economics:
How much in resources has society spent on convincing women to be NPC leftist careerists?
vs.
How much in resources has society spent on convincing women to be good wives and mothers?
And what you will sadly conclude is that you get what you pay for.
"There are Only NPC Leftist Women on the Menu, Sir"
This is the key point I'm trying to convey to my clients of the past and any marriage-minded men of the future. The supply of quality, marriage material women is simply not here. There are not enough marriage-material women to go around. And the shortage is so bad that I estimate nearly 90% of men who want to get married will have accept one of two things:
1. You're not going to get married, or
2. You can get married, but it will not be to a woman who puts you and the family first in her life.
Understand, this isn't because the women themselves are inherently low quality, or unqualified to be wives or mothers. It's that we have spent NO resources training them to be either, and have instead spent trillions convincing them their careers, educations, and (ultimately) politics are more important in life. And while I'm fully aware most women SAY they want to get married and some have kids, as I've said before;
"Getting married only requires saying 'I do.' And having kids only requires forgetting a condom.
To be a wife and a mother takes infinitely more work, and women today have been trained in neither."
The sad truth is like sausage, rolls of sod, reams of blank white paper, most women have been purposely conditioned to become mass-produced, boring, unmentionable, unnoteworthy, borg-like NPC leftists. It benefits the democrat party through votes. It benefits the government through increased taxes (both via increased rates AND having women working and paying taxes as well). And it benefits the media/corporate/college/materialist industries as women spend their money on trinkets, bobbles, handbags, and Masters in Social Work degrees. But it will NEVER benefit a husband, children, a family, or loved ones. And I'm not here to tell you some kind of "comeuppance" story, where women in their late 40's hit menopause and ask "where have all the good men gone" while cuddling their cats.
I'm telling you because you're my clients. You need to know the truth.
Do not have the expectations of getting married in today's world. The majority of women are not qualified to be mothers or wives. They are qualified to be social workers, human resource directors, non-profit directors, CEO's, and any other form of worker drone. But they are not capable of being a wife or a mother.
Prepare accordingly and "enjoy the decline."
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54 comments:
This is hearbreaking. You truly speak devastating truths. I'm still hoping to maybe find a suitable wife in a place like rural Vietnam. I'm in the same age bracket as these guys and while I make nowhere near as much money or have it saved up as them I'm doing OK. If these guys struggle, then God help me...
The Christian churches have not spent as much money as Hollywood, but the Christian churches have tried to teach women that motherhood is a sacred duty.
The blood-and-soil ethno-nationalists have spent very little money, but they have tried to make their voices heard.
Ultimately, the Christians and the ethnats are going to try to save Western Civilization, and nobody else is going to try to save Western Civilization.
Don't despair, guys ...... marry a young gal from SE Asia!
If you go about it right, (DON'T MARRY A BAR GIRL, for God's sake!!), you'll have a faithful woman who enjoys being a wife and mother. Ideally you and her will share the same faith, (religion is an important part of marriage IMHO), but what is important is that you both accept a "Higher Power" than your own intellects/egos as the guiding force of the universe.
American woman are damaged goods, unless you find one raised in a very conservative religious environment.
Savage.
Posts like this are the reason you're - easily - one of the best thinkers and writers available to red pilled men.
Great stuff, and thanks.
thanks. I have been only a beer and wine drinker for years but looking for a reason to hit the hard stuff again; this ought to do it.
I'm a US expat in Saigon. Married a Viet girl half my age plus 7. We have 3 young kids. Very happy with her.
If you choose well you can find a good wife here. They aren't all good, but I'd say >50% are marriageable. Avoid the "foreigner hunters", bargirls and sluts (easy if you know the tells). Feminism is infecting SE Asia slowly but surely.
My wife is professional. But no chip on her shoulder. She cooks and cleans. It helps that we have a maid. I rarely touched a diaper. If I asked her to, she'd meet me at the door with my slippers and a martini. Seriously, it's like the 1950s here. She counts on me to bring home the bacon and make the big decisions, I count on her to run the house.
I always wanted my kids to have blue eyes and look like me, but as mixed-race obviously they don't. I accept that given all I've got. Still, I sometimes worry about my sons' identity as mixed-race men when we move back to the US eventually. A lot of hapa men are messed up, but I think it's due to their parents' lack of guidance. Gonna teach them game. Odds are my daughter will marry a white man.
One buddy of mine who married a Japanese cautioned me NOT to move back to the US. His wife started out all traditional, but quickly became Americanized. Now she's vegan, has the kids vegan (unhealthy for them) and harangues him when he eats meat.
They are qualified to be social workers, human resource directors, non-profit directors, CEO's, and any other form of worker drone.
you left whores off the list. they are naturally and easily qualified for that. just try'n to help on an otherwise good post
traitors first
I have a solution. It requires Alpha'ing up, finding a woman and mating. Women are malleable, you just have to be man enough to do it. The future belongs to those who breed. Are you going to let your line end because of TV?
NPC? Always good to spell out an acronym the first time used in an article!
Hey Cap’n...
Have you considered that the women worth marrying and building a family with, and who desire the same themselves, probably found their guy in their early 20s? Maybe the issue is that your clients waited too long, and focused on travel, food, making money, enjoying life, etc...instead of settling down and starting a family in their 20s. Aren’t they just another flavor of NPC?
But what values do these men bring to the table? Legal or not, using prostitutes is immoral. If the men don't have solid values, despite their highly paid jobs and financial security, they won't find anyone. Theres also an attitude that goes with high incomes that won't be attractive to women of the sort they claim they want to marry.
This reminded me of a story I read about 10 years ago on WWI in the Daily Mail. The article quoted a woman who told how in 1918, the headmistress of her school assembled the girls in the chapel then told them bluntly
"Most of you will never marry. There just aren't enough men left so many have been killed."
This post relates a similar reality for men about the war upon the sexes.
Great post.
The comment about wifing up in your 20s is on the mark. One cock rule worked for me.
I have hopes for the future. The women predisposed to wifery and motherhood will have more children, and her children will have more children. The careerist winebag cat lady will have one autistic child, who will probably not procreate. Nature will eventually take care of the problem.
"The Christian churches have not spent as much money as Hollywood, but the Christian churches have tried to teach women that motherhood is a sacred duty."
95% 'christian' churches are cucked just as much as the local 'university'. Paul was right about a lot of things but they have the balls to say it. It's all fake love, shallow non-doctrine, begging for money, and sportsball. Not one damn time in thousands of sermons did I ever hear a preacher tell people to get in fucking shape or put down the fork. Only one tiny church ever told people to stay out of debt, and that was only because you were supposed to dump all your income into their stupid "building fund" so the preacher could embezzle it.
"I'm a US expat in Saigon.", et al.
SE Asia does not have enough quality women to supply the whole world. Asia technically doesn't even have enough women for itself. Going overseas will only work until too many men do it. Asian governments will crack down (read: cash in). Asian women will raise their demands with the rise in demand for them. The early bird gets the worm.
"NPC? Always good to spell out an acronym the first time used in an article!"
Not knowing this acronym only shows your gross ignorance of the modern world. It is a shame on you, not Cappy.
"Have you considered that the women worth marrying and building a family with, and who desire the same themselves, probably found their guy in their early 20s?"
My wife and I married in our early to mid 20's. She's an immigrant from Asia. (Already a full citizen when I met her, has no accent.) All of her quality friends were already married off by that time; she was the last one, having delayed dating to get her engineering degree (which she doesn't use and has no debt from.) The grapefruit section gets picked over quickly. VERY QUICKLY. Six figures means nothing when all the good women have been snapped up.
"I have a solution. It requires Alpha'ing up..."
By definition, we can't all be Alphas. That's Aaron's point. Only the top few percent of high quality, very motivated, and also very lucky men will find a decent mate.
"But what values do these men bring to the table?"
Well said. My wife would not have even considered me, and indeed had turned down other men, if I was not also virgin at the time. Moral women want moral men. "Born Again" men can't expect women without a history too.
"Have you considered that the women worth marrying and building a family with, and who desire the same themselves, probably found their guy in their early 20s? Maybe the issue is that your clients waited too long, and focused on travel, food, making money, enjoying life, etc...instead of settling down and starting a family in their 20s."
But men are not allowed to you see because at 19 and 20, we are all to damn 'immature' to be married off to an attractive woman close to our age. So we are supposed to suffer for lack of intimacy while women go bang the football team on weekends. It's worse if you are in a Christian church. They won't marry you to a virgin and encourage a relationship while you are in school.
"They won't marry you to a virgin and encourage a relationship while you are in school. They won't marry you to a virgin and encourage a relationship while you are in school."
Don't go to school, except maybe to become a proper electrical or mechanical engineer. Everything else is worthless. If you aren't already good at computers by the end of high school, you just aren't smart and interested enough and you don't stand much chance of getting a high paying tech job anyway. Go get a job in a useful trade instead.
They aren't entirely wrong; school is a holding cell for children these days.
A Texan,
the comment you're replying to is nonsensical (that men are waiting too long, into their 30s even, to start families); the successful men Aaron writes about are obviously interested in an early 20s-marriagable woman. They're just very rare. Younger woman + older man is an ancient combination.
Overall this reinforces what I see in my environment, so I consider it very truthy.
Goku said...
I have hopes for the future. The women predisposed to wifery and motherhood will have more children, and her children will have more children. The careerist winebag cat lady will have one autistic child, who will probably not procreate. Nature will eventually take care of the problem.
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I wouldn't bet on them having more children than the single moms with kids by 3 different fathers, the careerist shrikes having test tube babies, and feminists having a kid or two then divorcing.
And there's no guarantee that their kids are going to follow in their footsteps; everything is going to be lined up against them, from the education industry, their peer groups, social media, and popular culture.
Really good article, I’m older (50’s) and look across the landscape of the divorced women I have dated for the past 15 years and the vast majority of them are deluded unhappy NPCs just like Aaron observed in the young ones. They talk about how “they were a single parent and did it on their own” repeating the programming when in REALITY they get child support or alimony and are broke without it. If the gutters need to be cleaned or the lawn mowed there is a man (usually their Dad) or a handyman (paid for by the ex) doing it. They put their children first in any relationship and then wonder why “they haven’t been able to remarry or sustain a long relationship.” The women of America have been fed a diet of unrealistic, non practical goals that no one can achieve, great lucrative career doing what you love, all the family time you ever need, complete romantic love everyday, no sacrifice ever needed. They are not capable of being in a sustainable relationship, most of them blew up their marriages because they were “unhappy” and now they’re still unhappy because what they are programmed to expect doesn’t exist even when they follow the lefty/progressive/feminist roadmap. This cognitive dissonance creates their “unhappiness” and all the high sales of anti depressants.....
Beware young men, no one can HAVE what they are programmed to be “entitled to” and when it doesn’t happen it won’t be their fault so the problem must be YOU.
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The hard fact is that the vast majority of women are either uninterested in marriage because it makes them forsake the altar of self-worship, or they're simply unmarriageable. The very few that are willing and worth marrying are, as Cappy has observed, religious women, but the trick is finding the ones that don't use their religion as fashion, and are actual, real believers who are willing to sacrifice for their beliefs. And in order to marry a woman like that, you typically have to be religious yourself, and just like her, be willing to sacrifice for your beliefs.
I've met perhaps a dozen such women in my life. I married one, and am very happy. But with this kind of woman, you have to go all in. If you're not devoutly religious yourself, I recommend giving up on marriage. The world is getting too good at programming women into NPCs. Maybe in seventy-five or a hundred years there will be more balance in the world.
While this article touches on many truths-the brainwashing that the Media, SOME mothers and Universities give to young women, it still takes two to tango. I would have liked to get married in my mid-20's but RARELY met a man who was interested in that, they preferred to have sex only, so it works both ways. The one man with whom I had a serious relationship with at that age thought it was good to have a wife that worked and would never have countenanced one who wanted to be a housewife/mother only. Mike, the poster above, is right-if you want a woman to stay home and raise children, you'll have to be willing to sacrifice late nights with guys, mistresses and many of the other goodies that high earners expect to enjoy. I also wonder what some men are seeking by taking asian brides-if you want to "save" your civilization, find a "native" woman-they are out there.
The sad fact is that most men past 35 will continue to have a crappy dating pool. Girls these days, even traditional, don't want more than a 5 year age gap. Considering almost every "good girl" gets swallowed up in a relationship by 23 or so, the max age for men trying to date and wanting a family is around 28. So, if you're past 30, it's dunzo for you if you want a nice girl. I know, the outliers, blah blah blah. This is retarded philosophy some have taken about the rationalmale curve, which many men have misunderstood and misapplied to their own lives. Most men are not gettting more handsome or more wealthy - shove your status arguments where the sun don't shine. If you want a real relationship, the girls want youthfulness as well. If you want a "seeking arrangement" marriage, be my guest and flush your future into a divorce court. Otherwise, marry up that single mom, or continue with the prostitutes, or convince yourself mgtow is for you (secret - it's not!).
"A Texan,
the comment you're replying to is nonsensical (that men are waiting too long, into their 30s even, to start families); the successful men Aaron writes about are obviously interested in an early 20s-marriagable woman. They're just very rare. Younger woman + older man is an ancient combination."
I was replying to the puritan criticizing these men for getting some action that any real man biologically needs on a regular basis. Most of America used to marry out of high school. Now, it's delay, delay, delay. Would society be better off if marriage were encouraged while to going to college?
For me, looking back, I could have benefited from a decent relationship out of high school.
"Don't go to school, except maybe to become a proper electrical or mechanical engineer. Everything else is worthless. "
I have a couple degrees one of which is EE. I can't say it's been that great of a ride financially. The companies want to outsource much of the engineering to raise their percent profit up 1 or 2% but then somehow Americans are going to buy $250k homes and $50k vehicles.
A trade job or basket of trade skills has the potential to keep you employed if you have the aptitude.
The fact of the matter is that the public transport bus driver or the garbage truck driver makes more than most people in STEM.
Don't forget that even if a woman isn't an NPC in her youth and early years of her marriage, her NPC 'friends' and acquaintances, the culture, and the media are filling her ears, eyes, and mind with their Lefty/feminist/'progressive' propaganda at every turn, trying their hardest to turn her into one of 'them'.
Well, the "wife material" women entering this market will certainly have their pick of the crop of men.
I'm married 41 years to a Chinese woman, 9 years older than she is. Like so many she got wrapped up in career and making money and probably wishes we had more than the one son. Oh well; at least we had the one. With Asians, watch out for excessive drive in the business world. But, I'm still happy.
If I were starting over again, I'd probably think about living in a small town and maybe even joining a church. Better chances there, I think.
Marriage is do-able in the modern world, especially for men like your clients, but it will take some creativity and a combination of advice from commenters here.
1. Consult a male family law attorney who represents men in divorces. He will set up a trust or trusts to protect your assets (pre-nups don’t work).
2. Own everything in your name BEFORE you get married. keep it that way during marriage.
3. Keep separate bank accounts.
4. You must maintain the upper hand in your relationship at all times: Before marriage, set expectations (once married, she doesn’t work, her job is to be the mother of your kids and to run the house); while dating: don’t put up with NPC behavior or bullshit. If you get that don’t marry. Once married DO NOT let your guard down or pedestalize her. Between Cappy here and Heartiste, and the various commenters on these sites, you can make it work. But it isn’t for the weak minded.
Bottom line is that you can marry, but it’s not like the old June and Ward Cleaver marriage. You have to run it like a CEO running a cut-throat business. Because, in the modern world the minute your wife senses weakness or gets the idea she can gain an advantage on you, you’re already screwed.
They are looking in the wrong places. They are in mostly urban areas looking at college educated women. Go to more rural or ex-urbia areas where traditional values are common. Go to a church - again traditional values of wife and mother. Look for women who have not had the liberal arts college experience - science or tech majors in particular.
Anon 8:14 AM & Tina848, I have lived in a couple small towns now. From what I can tell, all/nearly all of the attractive women decamp for big cities as soon as they can, surely to increase their chances of meeting a high status man. Can't blame em, really.
@Phred Phin
You are delusional. As a "foreign born" spouse of a US service member, I can assure you that the Asians the desperate and insecure marry are indeed hookers but with more dishonest giftwrapping. ALL the Asian wives I had the misfortune of dealing with over the years and in many different situations eventually revealed themselves to be shallow, superficial and intensely materialistic. Spending your money is what they live to do. My spouse works with a fool who made the mistake of importing a Filipino who now runs him like an indentured servant supporting "an entire village in the Phillipines". Another scam is to run up big insurance policies on the mark who then ends up in an "unfortunate accident" while visiting the wife's home country. Not to mention the line up at Base Legal the first day of business after they depart for a months long or year long deployment. Asians in particular seem to be extremely well versed in the "I get half!" demand once they get that all import Green Card with the provisional status removed.
And ... no one respects a white male who feels desperate enough to feed the yellow fever. Emasculated doesn't even begin to accurately describe it.
> The sad fact is that most men past 35 will continue to have a crappy dating pool. Girls these days, even traditional, don't want more than a 5 year age gap. Considering almost every "good girl" gets swallowed up in a relationship by 23 or so, the max age for men trying to date and wanting a family is around 28. So, if you're past 30, it's dunzo for you if you want a nice girl. I know, the outliers, blah blah blah. This is retarded philosophy some have taken about the rationalmale curve, which many men have misunderstood and misapplied to their own lives. Most men are not gettting more handsome or more wealthy - shove your status arguments where the sun don't shine. If you want a real relationship, the girls want youthfulness as well. If you want a "seeking arrangement" marriage, be my guest and flush your future into a divorce court. Otherwise, marry up that single mom, or continue with the prostitutes, or convince yourself mgtow is for you (secret - it's not!).
So what exactly are you suggesting to the over 35 crowd then? Invent a time machine?
> Bottom line is that you can marry, but it’s not like the old June and Ward Cleaver marriage. You have to run it like a CEO running a cut-throat business. Because, in the modern world the minute your wife senses weakness or gets the idea she can gain an advantage on you, you’re already screwed.
Is it really worth it if you have to go through all that trouble?
Interesting read and comments, as usual.
A few observations:
1)The June and Ward Cleaver types went to church.
2) We further aggravate these problems by segregating children by age ASAP, with one result being a lack of understanding and empathy for those outside our own age/generation. (Also lack of effective transferrance of values from previous generations)
3) Fundamental changes in world view have consequences. Observe the societies in the last 200 years where particular world views were dominant. Which ones had the best outcomes? Can we expect a Ward and June Cleaver marriage when we don't see the world anything like they did?
This is not new. One of the Quincy/Adams founding father types complained about 'the tyranny of the petticoat' (a woman's garment).
Millions of divorced men stopping paying child support and defending against consequences would start putting an end to it.
Longer-term, sex robots will put an end to it. Imagine one with a transexual man's personality, who wants to be a woman who pleases men.
Just get a couple of "sugar babies" & roll on.
They are as likely to give a damn about you as that "good girl".
Few women these days are conditioned to care even if you meet all their $$$$ emergencies
They get that beat out them by sweet 16.
Get your rocks off honey!
Do you think your going to find true love in 2019?
You funny.
Look into a american girl from the South. A good one will be a 2nd Amendment supporter who was taught to shoot by her father at a young age. She will own her own gun and know how to shoot, perhaps she has a Concealed Carry Permit so she can protect herself from savages and feral blacks.
She will believe in God - probably Southern Baptist but not a bible thumper. She will have morals, stand by her man and her children will be a priority. NOT a career - perhaps she will have a part time job to help with the bills. They are out there - ask me how I know.
I've been married to one for over 20 years - and my 19yr old daughter has been raised this way. And my 13yr old son already has eyes wide open. But YOU must have something to offer that woman - not just money. best regards to all
Red in Ole Virginny
I'm a fabled anti-feminist, white "good wife and mother," and yes, I was snatched up by 17 (my husband and I met at 17 and 19). I had extremely high standards, and still would if I was single. My husband also had extremely high standards. I would never have given a second glance to a hedonist. Anyone who has EVER slept with a prostitute is a scumbag. I refused to date anyone who wasn't a virgin until marriage. Ever watched porn? Nope. Done drugs? Nope. A drinker? Nope. Ever been a partier? Nope. If you think you can be a hedonist with a line out and expect to catch a good woman, you are sorely mistaken. Good women value loyalty, morality, stability, and a protector. Hold yourself to the standard you want and maybe you'll get some bites, if she's forgiving of past behavior, unlike me. And for the love of God, don't become a race traitor like these POS commentors who are going to Asia. The problem lies with (((brainwash))) of boys and girls alike.
Not saying that NPC chickadees aren't real and don't exist in problematic quantities, but I see too many young males with eyes cast downward into phones, wearing skinny Metrosexual jeans, and acting all kinds of faggoty. Girls can be trained, but first you gotta have a pair.
Everything's in your name; separate bank accounts; she has no outside income (from paid work); "maintain the upper hand"? Sounds like slavery! What woman in her right mind would sign up for that deal? There are (some) conservative women out there who might want to be full-time homemakers--IF the job comes with fair compensation (basically, equal access to the household income--on the premise that her contribution to the household is as important as yours) and financial security (for the kids and herself) whether or not the marriage lasts. Current family law may be imperfect (and in need of tweaking) but the law has actually tried to make full-time homemaking (at least when the kids are young) a viable and attractive choice. Without such legal safeguards, NO contemporary woman would choose to marry, and certainly not to be a full-time homemaker.
Part of the problem is that you cant have your cake and eat it too. You can not be a player, or frequenter of prostitutes as the 1st example and then find a woman worth having. My wife and I were each others first (I saw the proof), and have been our only. 21 years next year, sex 4 to 5 times a week, multiples if you know what I mean. This is not to brag, but to say that the old ways are the best ways. You find a woman like this by being a man like this.
Having a common faith, living it, putting each other first. I treat her like a queen, not a princess. And I am treated like a King. But we do the work necessary. Both out of the bedroom and in it.
I am not on video games all day. I am not out with friends away from home all the time. I work around the home on things on days off. If I do go somewhere on trips it is usually to firearms training something of that nature. She knows i am The protector and am capable.
Stop trying to get game or be "Alpha". My income is lower middle class, 55-70s range.
We are normal looking people. But, we are happy in each other. so don't tell me, or the older men who look at their wives of 40 years and feel all the love and intensity that is there that we don't know what we are talking about. Shut up and listen to someone who has achieved something you haven't. oh yeah and stop chasing sluts.
Or not. Continue to bitch and moan. I gotta go. Got man things to do. The things men used to understand.
That means I was lucky to find a kind woman who is also a wonderful mother?
Also most of my friends finally found someone at the end of their 30s to share their life with (though nobody knows if it lasts right?).
Are we exceptional?
@Anonymous 8:00 AM (Red in Ole Virginny) You hit the nail on the head. You could have been describing my daughter. Taught all of my kids to shoot young, my oldest carries everywhere she goes. I also taught them the meaning of words like honor, integrity, duty, responsibility, etc. and instilled those values in them. Her husband is in the military and she's extremely supportive of his career as they're a team and she understands that. They have 4 kids and their family comes first. My ex is one of these NPCs who puts career first however I've worked hard over the years to counter her toxic message telling my daughter now that she's married her immediate family (husband & kids) come first and the rest of us are second. Also, if she ever has to choose between the two to always choose her immediate family over everything else, that I understand and support that and if her mom would have had that focus she'd be happy today instead of bitter and alone. Parents need to do their part here!
Redleg
Excellent post. At 33, I've had the same question, "is this really all there is to life?" for a little over 2 years now. I now have everything I ever wanted from a material sense, I'm physically fit, save enough cash to easily retire in under 10 years, and have a healthy notch count. I follow Cappy's advice on minimalism, travel, and don't spend anywhere close to what I earn (well over 6 fig). Thanks Cappy.
Most American women I meet in their 20's are fucked out in every sense. They have shitty jobs, tons of debt, are medicated, and are getting more and more fat. Just gross. I have met a few (very few) women that are smart, interesting, and beautiful. They know it. These women have so far had zero interest in marriage or having children. These flings are great, but they are nothing more than that. I try to find the humor in my situation, and often do. I laugh and make fun of these NPC women with my friends all the time. It is a bit sad though when you realize that even the vast majority of very beautiful and smart women are just NPCs.
50 years ago, hell maybe 20 years ago, I think I would have been able to find a suitable wife and start a family. Now I believe it is quite unlikely.
I do find myself frustrated, bitter, and even angry that this is all there is. Well actually I just got my motorcycle license and will start riding in the spring...so I guess there's more fun to have.
Thanks again Cappy for your excellent post and keep up the good work!
> Part of the problem is that you cant have your cake and eat it too. You can not be a player, or frequenter of prostitutes as the 1st example and then find a woman worth having. My wife and I were each others first (I saw the proof), and have been our only. 21 years next year, sex 4 to 5 times a week, multiples if you know what I mean. This is not to brag, but to say that the old ways are the best ways. You find a woman like this by being a man like this.
You were in the right place at the right time. Get off your high horse and appreciate the luck that played into this.
> I am not on video games all day. I am not out with friends away from home all the time. I work around the home on things on days off. If I do go somewhere on trips it is usually to firearms training something of that nature.
Just like 99% of the guys out there, single or married. Who cares
> Stop trying to get game or be "Alpha". Or not. Continue to bitch and moan. I gotta go. Got man things to do. The things men used to understand.
You forgot to mention "be a condescending prick".
Wow. We've gone through a kind of war that's removed both women and men from the ranks of the marriageable. Women of course would argue there's a surplus of NPC soyboy men writing code who haven't been trained in how to lead and provide for a family. We may never go back culturally to training boys and girls how to live a satisfying life.
This is cultural genocide. Systematic, programmed destruction, plain and simple. I been seeing this for years, ever since I was 26 and started really paying attention to the world. And people have just been sitting on their asses and letting it happen. Nobody told me what to do when I was in my twenties. And I listened to a LOT of people in their 40s, 50, and older. Not a frickin peep about this. Unfortunately a major part of this problem stems from the machinations of the "triple parentheses people", who I'm sure you know all too well. Not all of it, but I'd say like 60% is due to them. This late in the game, there basically is nothing even approaching a palatable solution to this quandary. Things are just gonna get really bad. The US will be destroyed by this. Leftists will vote their free shit, and anyone with money will simply lose the will to keep producing. They will get their Utopia of Starvatia. And half the world is going to starve to death because who the heck is going to produce food (or anything else) once we know that our culture has been lost to this machine?
your article was cited on Karl Denninger's blog Market-Ticker.org. http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=234685
if Karl is referencing your work, you have something noteworthy. he is a giant in financial literacy and versed in other topics.
They've been programmed alright, but not by the "leftists," as you put it. Most of these women flood the labor pool, and compete with men for jobs. They are there to double the labor pool. It is just simple math. Also, all the "illegal" immigrants are there to expand the cheap labor pool, and all the people locked up in prison. The more coerced labor the better for the oligarchs. "Leftism," as you call it, is actually just about distracting people from real substantive issues of wealth and power distribution, and keeping them economically illiterate. Who wins with that ideology? Certainly not the "leftists." All the "leftist" ideologues are funded by rich people. They don't exist without rich people. One of them steps out of line and actually makes a substantive critique, they get dealt with, usually with a simple firing and a fading into obscurity and unemployment.
These women are programmed to be corporate serfs so they can compete for middle management positions. They people at the top are most afraid of the people in the middle, so this is really about weakening the middle by making them compete against each other every which way. Many will become poor, or die from stress in some way. The remainder will be too tired to pose any threat, and the strongest of them will eagerly join the people at the top as lieutenants, so they can incrementally advance their own interests over time. Also, these women act as unpaid prostitutes, or low-paid prostitutes to the men at the top, who constantly dangle the promise of marriage, but never deliver, so they can create as many whores as possible without having to open their wallets except to buy a trinket from the company store with their expense account money. They have those jobs for access, mostly, though there are a small percentage who either have a natural aptitude, or have drunk the Kool-Aid and are passionate, just as most men are in it for the money so they can buy themselves the trophy wife of their adolescent dreams.
Now Now Now!
Not all (white) women are voting democrat.
In fact, only half of them do.
"Part of the problem is that you cant have your cake and eat it too. You can not be a player, or frequenter of prostitutes as the 1st example and then find a woman worth having. My wife and I were each others first (I saw the proof), and have been our only. 21 years next year, sex 4 to 5 times a week, multiples if you know what I mean. This is not to brag, but to say that the old ways are the best ways. You find a woman like this by being a man like this.
Having a common faith, living it, putting each other first. I treat her like a queen, not a princess. And I am treated like a King. But we do the work necessary. Both out of the bedroom and in it.
I am not on video games all day. I am not out with friends away from home all the time. I work around the home on things on days off. If I do go somewhere on trips it is usually to firearms training something of that nature. She knows i am The protector and am capable.
Stop trying to get game or be "Alpha". My income is lower middle class, 55-70s range."
THIS!!!!
I have been on both sides of the fence. Lived a life of sexual freedom between my 22-23 and 35 (I am 38 now). Came back to my senses in 2015, developed chastity, and been looking for a woman ever since.
While the quality of women globally has plummeted (I lived in USA, Argentina, Spain, and Belgium, by the way), so has the quality of men.
How many men can say that they do not watch porn nor masturbate? How many can say that they do not do drugs? Become the person you want to marry!!!
What I find striking of this article is that all the "outstanding candidates" are such because they make money and work out. So what? Pablo Escobar cleared millions a week and he was not definitely someone a decent woman would marry.
Don t get me wrong, I am all in all for becoming a man with solid finances, but it is far from the highest virtue a man can have (and a woman should look at). How about self-discipline in the control of your dick, in being a man of good character and reliable?
Why would any decent woman marry a bunch of guys who may have all the STDs available for human race only because they clear 6 figures?
Would you want your daughter to marry a prostitute-cruising dude just because he is a doctor and makes half a million per year?
What I also find contradictory is that if a man with good financial status does not find a woman, it seems like the end of the world. But if a woman chases a man with good financial status, then she is a harlot.
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Women are basically the opposite of autism, so NPC is like a genetic disorder. That's why men in the past got them in their teens and didn't let them leave the house. Social exposure destroys their feeble minds and overrides good programming.
I am sorry to tell you that is not true. The reason society has no decent women is because the church became feminized. They are absolutely NOT teaching women to fill traditional roles, they are instead walking on egg shells around them, begging them for sex and praising them endlessly for no reason (well except for sex which the church says is a 'gift from God').
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