I think I will no longer worry about offending people's sensibilities when I tell them to not major in crap.
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Yes, this one really takes cake. I always remember hearing, how someone good take basket weaving in university. It was meant as a joke about silly programs, that were available at some universities. Well to actually have a puppet program, has to be some sort of all time low point for the state of education.
actually my female cousin did her degree in puppetry or children's theatre as it's called. so she could live her dream and work on sesame street( dead serious) she got some IT certifications and now works in the movie business apparent;y she found work right away in LA . she claims she gets preference for jobs being female
Please do your homework before making a ignorant post. Puppetry is one of the oldest artforms and (Although seems fairly easy to execute) is pretty hard to master. Your view of puppetry sounds narrow and very limited. I would suggest doing your homework before commenting on something you deem irrelevant in life. Any degree at any University/College can be a waste of time depending on what the graduate does with it. If you are a educated person, you would agree with me on this, thus making your comment of a Puppetry Course being a waste of time void. I doubt you will allow this comment to be posted as it will demonstrate your level of ignorance towards the arts. And if you think Art has no place in the world then you are more dumb than you appear to be.
I would normally delete your comment, but because you highlight the arrogance and idiocy AND entitlement of the OWS generation, I decided to publish your (literal) drivel.
You are a worthless human being who is obviously offering nothing to, but demanding everything from society.
You are the epitome of loser.
Effing moron daring to stand up and defend a spoiled brat getting a MASTERS DEGREE in "puppetry."
What's next?
Masters in Eating Chocolate?
Masters in Playing Video Games?
BTW your "art" sucks for the most part because you're nothing but a bunch of spoiled rich kids who have no talent, are too lazy to master calculus and therefore claim "you're an idiot for not appreciating the arts."
When I start seeing real, genuine art, I'll start appreciating it.
Not this minimalist crap you spawn of limosuine liberal trust fund babies foist upon society as "art."
Personally, I don't give a crap what someone gets a degree in, as long as they pay for it all themselves.
Subsididies should be banned for any degree not economically justified - STEM.
Wailing about having a huge debt for a degree that actually hurts your employability? Get fucking lost.
I actually knew sociology students* some twenty years ago, that when it came to getting a job, they were surprised that no-one was interested in them! whodathunkit?
I was doing 30 hours of lectures and labs per week, plus private study (in theory anyway). They prepared for a presentation once a fortnight.
Damn the patriarchy for making my degree more respected at job seeking time.
I thought they should be able to choose what they wanted to study, bitching about it being useless afterwards just made me laugh.
*In my defense I was a stem UG, so had to look to the loser degrees for females.
When I was 14 years old, my friends and I understood cause and effect sufficiently to know that there had to be some connection between what you studied in college and the work/career you did when you got out. For example, you majored in engineering if you wanted to do engineering work and finance/accounting if you wanted to work in business.
It seems to me that young adults today fail to comprehend a simple cause and effect relationship that was obvious to me even when I was 14 years old.
Most people understand that their degree/s signify what line/s of work they can do.
It's just that there's very little demand for puppetry majors.
Degree requirements are so cooked and bloated by the colleges that they're like microwaved marshmallows. People tend to go for what they like to do and what's easier. If the crap was cut, the "electives" removed from the requirements, then more people would go for STEM degrees. Even then, a lot of people still won't go for STEM, but I can't control that.
When leaving High School I "followed my heart" and got a diploma in Film Production. A couple of years of flipping hamburgers later, I followed my head and got a degree in Computer Engineering. Been in the business for 17 years and never out of work once. I'm not in the 1% yet, but I'm damn close to it. Maybe money won't buy you happiness but poverty sure as Hell won't.
My dream would be a degree in military history, but I know I'll never see an ad $50k writer must have said degree. I stand with Lars Larson that to get a loan for a degree, you must make a case like a business. His favorite to ridicule is the guy with Ph.d in drumming with $150k in loans. What did this guy think?
Katie Underhay - email me at Katie.underhay@rwcmd.ac.uk for more information, if you are willing to be educated
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I seriously think you need to worry about yourself before you worry about the careers and education of everyone else on Earth. Puppetry, like any other career (particularly the arts and theatre) is incredibly hard to get into. Having a masters degree in a subject is no doubt going to help employability and why shouldn't someone who is passionate about a subject which could bring joy to millions have to pass that up to become a neurobiologist? I am not "too stupid" to have a different career, but I like puppets. And if Jim Henson decided to become an accountant then I expect there would be thousands of children all over the world who would have found it a lot harder to earn to count, or about coping with death or accepting other cultures and ethnicities (all covered within Sesame Street).
I highly doubt you have seen War Horse, but Handspring (a British puppet company) developed beautiful and moving puppetry based on Michael Morpurgo's novel at the National Theatre Company and not only has this production moved from the national to another West End Theatre, it has also moved to Broadway and entertained and been a form of escapism for thousands of people. And if you think that something this spectacular on the West End and Broadway isn't worth educated people to be involved in it, PLEASE be my guest and insult Musical Theatre Degrees, Drama Degrees, Fine Art Degrees, Music Degrees, Stage Management, Theatre Design, Technical Theatre, because in your mind, these are all pointless, as is the theatre. I suppose if you think theatre is pointless, you agree that television is pointless? And that degrees in acting are pointless for the performers in your favourite TV shows?
I do not take insults to the arts lightly. They are often made by ignorant people who expect entertainment to come from nowhere. So unless you want to sit alone in a room being a banker (or whatever you do) with no artwork or posters on your wall, no music to ever listen to or even radio shows, no television, no theatre, no film, no literature, and no bedtime stories to read your children (which I doubt) then LIVE AND LET LIVE.
If you don't like the idea of a Masters Degree in Puppetry, don't take one! And stop worrying about those who do! Live is too short to worry abut people you think are idiots, therefore I shall stop thinking about you!
I got knots in my stomach reading about your opinion of people who go after arts degrees. They do not have to be wealthy, but they do have a passion and a talent which they wish to pursue and master. An actor, a singer, a composer, a musician, a writer, a ballerina, a director, a designer, or a puppeteer all work just as hard as a plumber, electrician, or business man or woman. The only difference is job security. A man going after a degree in puppetry realizes the risk in his choice of degree, but his passion makes it worth it. Research into the puppetry program at the University of Connecticut reveals it to be a rigorous program with classes in English, Theatre, and other forms of art. The only possible graduate of this program becomes well versed in many art forms with a strong affinity and skill in the art of puppetry. War Horse, Sesame Street, Avenue Q, The Lion King, A Midsummer Night's Dream, The Muppets, Jim Henson's Creature Shop, The Addams Family, The Handspring Puppet Company, Bread and Puppet Theatre Company, fantasy or science fiction movies and tv shows, toy makers, model makers... The list of people who could become successful with degrees in puppetry is too long to ignore. Just because your world may not be directly influenced by a certain art form does not mean no one else's is. Who knows what opportunities for puppeteers will be approaching in years to come. New movies, musicals, plays, and tv shows are always being written. A person pursuing a degree in computer design years ago could never have guessed they would be designing apps today. The world is always changing and who knows what degree will be in high demand next. I know you won't let this be posted, but it is worth it to let you know how foolish you are.
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Yes, this one really takes cake. I always remember hearing, how someone good take basket weaving in university. It was meant as a joke about silly programs, that were available at some universities.
Well to actually have a puppet program, has to be some sort of all time low point for the state of education.
actually my female cousin did her degree in puppetry or children's theatre as it's called. so she could live her dream and work on sesame street( dead serious) she got some IT certifications and now works in the movie business apparent;y she found work right away in LA . she claims she gets preference for jobs being female
Please do your homework before making a ignorant post. Puppetry is one of the oldest artforms and (Although seems fairly easy to execute) is pretty hard to master. Your view of puppetry sounds narrow and very limited. I would suggest doing your homework before commenting on something you deem irrelevant in life.
Any degree at any University/College can be a waste of time depending on what the graduate does with it. If you are a educated person, you would agree with me on this, thus making your comment of a Puppetry Course being a waste of time void.
I doubt you will allow this comment to be posted as it will demonstrate your level of ignorance towards the arts. And if you think Art has no place in the world then you are more dumb than you appear to be.
Anon,
I would normally delete your comment, but because you highlight the arrogance and idiocy AND entitlement of the OWS generation, I decided to publish your (literal) drivel.
You are a worthless human being who is obviously offering nothing to, but demanding everything from society.
You are the epitome of loser.
Effing moron daring to stand up and defend a spoiled brat getting a MASTERS DEGREE in "puppetry."
What's next?
Masters in Eating Chocolate?
Masters in Playing Video Games?
BTW your "art" sucks for the most part because you're nothing but a bunch of spoiled rich kids who have no talent, are too lazy to master calculus and therefore claim "you're an idiot for not appreciating the arts."
When I start seeing real, genuine art, I'll start appreciating it.
Not this minimalist crap you spawn of limosuine liberal trust fund babies foist upon society as "art."
Effing spoiled brat moron.
Personally, I don't give a crap what someone gets a degree in, as long as they pay for it all themselves.
Subsididies should be banned for any degree not economically justified - STEM.
Wailing about having a huge debt for a degree that actually hurts your employability? Get fucking lost.
I actually knew sociology students* some twenty years ago, that when it came to getting a job, they were surprised that no-one was interested in them! whodathunkit?
I was doing 30 hours of lectures and labs per week, plus private study (in theory anyway). They prepared for a presentation once a fortnight.
Damn the patriarchy for making my degree more respected at job seeking time.
I thought they should be able to choose what they wanted to study, bitching about it being useless afterwards just made me laugh.
*In my defense I was a stem UG, so had to look to the loser degrees for females.
I'd even be against STEM subsidies. It would only cause a bubble of engineers and ruin the labor market.
Let idiot children get their Masters in Unicorn Crayon Drawings and smart children major in the sciences.
Fair enough, I'm not talking about making them free, just less expensive than a puppetry degree...
I think the problem is that, in the UK, basic numeracy and science education has been fubarred...
Very hard to do an engineering subject from near scratch.
When I was 14 years old, my friends and I understood cause and effect sufficiently to know that there had to be some connection between what you studied in college and the work/career you did when you got out. For example, you majored in engineering if you wanted to do engineering work and finance/accounting if you wanted to work in business.
It seems to me that young adults today fail to comprehend a simple cause and effect relationship that was obvious to me even when I was 14 years old.
Most people understand that their degree/s signify what line/s of work they can do.
It's just that there's very little demand for puppetry majors.
Degree requirements are so cooked and bloated by the colleges that they're like microwaved marshmallows. People tend to go for what they like to do and what's easier. If the crap was cut, the "electives" removed from the requirements, then more people would go for STEM degrees. Even then, a lot of people still won't go for STEM, but I can't control that.
When leaving High School I "followed my heart" and got a diploma in Film Production. A couple of years of flipping hamburgers later, I followed my head and got a degree in Computer Engineering. Been in the business for 17 years and never out of work once. I'm not in the 1% yet, but I'm damn close to it.
Maybe money won't buy you happiness but poverty sure as Hell won't.
My dream would be a degree in military history, but I know I'll never see an ad $50k writer must have said degree. I stand with Lars Larson that to get a loan for a degree, you must make a case like a business. His favorite to ridicule is the guy with Ph.d in drumming with $150k in loans. What did this guy think?
I seriously think you need to worry about yourself before you worry about the careers and education of everyone else on Earth. Puppetry, like any other career (particularly the arts and theatre) is incredibly hard to get into. Having a masters degree in a subject is no doubt going to help employability and why shouldn't someone who is passionate about a subject which could bring joy to millions have to pass that up to become a neurobiologist? I am not "too stupid" to have a different career, but I like puppets. And if Jim Henson decided to become an accountant then I expect there would be thousands of children all over the world who would have found it a lot harder to earn to count, or about coping with death or accepting other cultures and ethnicities (all covered within Sesame Street).
I highly doubt you have seen War Horse, but Handspring (a British puppet company) developed beautiful and moving puppetry based on Michael Morpurgo's novel at the National Theatre Company and not only has this production moved from the national to another West End Theatre, it has also moved to Broadway and entertained and been a form of escapism for thousands of people. And if you think that something this spectacular on the West End and Broadway isn't worth educated people to be involved in it, PLEASE be my guest and insult Musical Theatre Degrees, Drama Degrees, Fine Art Degrees, Music Degrees, Stage Management, Theatre Design, Technical Theatre, because in your mind, these are all pointless, as is the theatre. I suppose if you think theatre is pointless, you agree that television is pointless? And that degrees in acting are pointless for the performers in your favourite TV shows?
I do not take insults to the arts lightly. They are often made by ignorant people who expect entertainment to come from nowhere. So unless you want to sit alone in a room being a banker (or whatever you do) with no artwork or posters on your wall, no music to ever listen to or even radio shows, no television, no theatre, no film, no literature, and no bedtime stories to read your children (which I doubt) then LIVE AND LET LIVE.
If you don't like the idea of a Masters Degree in Puppetry, don't take one! And stop worrying about those who do! Live is too short to worry abut people you think are idiots, therefore I shall stop thinking about you!
I got knots in my stomach reading about your opinion of people who go after arts degrees. They do not have to be wealthy, but they do have a passion and a talent which they wish to pursue and master. An actor, a singer, a composer, a musician, a writer, a ballerina, a director, a designer, or a puppeteer all work just as hard as a plumber, electrician, or business man or woman. The only difference is job security. A man going after a degree in puppetry realizes the risk in his choice of degree, but his passion makes it worth it.
Research into the puppetry program at the University of Connecticut reveals it to be a rigorous program with classes in English, Theatre, and other forms of art. The only possible graduate of this program becomes well versed in many art forms with a strong affinity and skill in the art of puppetry. War Horse, Sesame Street, Avenue Q, The Lion King, A Midsummer Night's Dream, The Muppets, Jim Henson's Creature Shop, The Addams Family, The Handspring Puppet Company, Bread and Puppet Theatre Company, fantasy or science fiction movies and tv shows, toy makers, model makers... The list of people who could become successful with degrees in puppetry is too long to ignore. Just because your world may not be directly influenced by a certain art form does not mean no one else's is.
Who knows what opportunities for puppeteers will be approaching in years to come. New movies, musicals, plays, and tv shows are always being written. A person pursuing a degree in computer design years ago could never have guessed they would be designing apps today. The world is always changing and who knows what degree will be in high demand next.
I know you won't let this be posted, but it is worth it to let you know how foolish you are.
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