Sunday, October 20, 2019

TFM Reviews "Enjoy the Decline"

A very interesting review of Enjoy the Decline because TFM vehemently disagrees with some of the points of the book.  Getting rarer and rarer to hear people actually disagree (critically and constructively) with you which is becoming an increasingly valuable commodity.

4 comments:

Nym Coy said...

Thank you for posting. His criticism is exactly right, which is why I've moved on to Vox Day. He fights back. Infogalactic to oppose Wikipedia. Fought against Indigogo deplatforming and reached resolution. Publishing comics to oppose the convergence of Marvel and DC. Partnered with Owen Benjamin to take back comedy. Encouraging families and community. Providing hope! Sure you red pill men, but you don't provide an answer for them over cynicism and a sterile hedonistic life of no consequence.

'Reality' Doug said...

I of course have my variations too. I would not describe Clarey as a tradcon. It's a broad brush the way TFM defines it. His 'no-go zone' idea is foolish because the imperial forces will never allow it. He presumes the decline phase of the Western cycle can be arrested when in fact it should be embraced as fundamental, organically so. What is one's life? Is it the success of one's values manifesting after one is dead on a wing and a prayer, or is it what one can live right now? TFM has made that choice for us all. However, there is absolutely no reason why one can't party and then at the end fight to the death, to take value from the enemy if the enemy prevents you from having your own value: war of attrition. But why do that first? Why not wait for the collapse and use it? Like a tradcon, TFM wants to commit everything to stopping the decline, especially other men's vitality and lives. Bullshit. Cooperation given is a privilege to be earned not a right to be forced by sophistry. We are not a people. A people are defined by culture which is an practical expectation of reciprocity. The admonishments of TFM is not reciprocity. His words are not actionable for me, save what to not do. But that is available in the better part of the alt-right. So imagine a Venn diagram of three circles arranged evenly. That's me relative to Aaron and TFM. What TMF has not discovered yet is that Aaron can be correct for Aaron, TFM can be correct for TFM, and Doug can be correct for Doug at the same time. After clearly understanding the problem, there is only a subjective choice based on our ids and emotions. We can't cogitate most truth of live. We must choose without being able to predict the future. Sure, we can see what, but not how or when, which makes it not practical. I think TFM is better and understanding women than Clarey, but Clarey seems to have a hot gf. Better to be lucky than good. What Clarey consciously knows about women and what he says could be, wisely, different where it counts for him and his truth, i.e. his life. If I were to go further, I might as well write a lengthy manifesto no one will care about unless I follow that up with something I am not likely to do very well and will not have the desired outcome. What matters for a mean being tested to fail is to choose his own path and fight that way.I can understand that suicide would be release from pain. It is easy to say homocide-suicide is the better choice, not a good choice, just a relatively better choice. If one faces death, why would one not deal it out to his best ability? I once had a baby field mouse fight me, and I dared not pick him up. Pain can be unbearable. I've learned to live less in my mind, in my abstract understanding of bid-picture causality. We don't know when the cracks and schisms may come and favor us. Focusing on the here and now, the concrete, is a very reduced sphere and the only place one can have influence. The realization that us intellectuals are both highly intelligent relative to our borg enemy and yet very stupid compared to navigating this shit show optimally or well can be uplifting. I hope the RP philosophy will evolve far enough to light the way out. I think about this every day. In the meantime, you must be you. Choose you if you are fully human, and you can't be very wrong. I never made a major mistake by choosing myself over others. On the contrary.

Sandwich_Enthusiast said...

He has a point in his review.

Why not burn it down?

'Reality' Doug said...

Sandwich_Enthusiast, your pithy brevity is right on.