Wednesday, May 02, 2007

I Need to "Grow Up"

"These men are the real life versions of Peter Pan, flat-out REFUSING to grow up and act their age. And even worse, these are the guys that will string you along the most. The point is, Megan K. and I are on the brink. The precipice of spinsterhood. A No-Man's Land (literally). We want to find The One, settle down and get married (and, for me at least, have babies). But all we're finding is guys who are simply wasting our time."

Holy Super Awesome Powerful Rationalization Hamsterl, Batman! Quick! Let me;

1. Throw away my motorcycle.
2. Give up my freedom
3. Forfeit my 2 months a year of vacation
4. Work twice as hard to pay for her and the "babies"
5. "grow up" and "act my age" by marrying this girl
6. for a 45% chance of NOT getting divorced

Eeeeyish! To quote Rodney Dangerfield;

"Now I know why some animals eat their young."

She even has a neato chart!



What I get a kick out of is what they bring to the table;

"You see, Megs and I -- as well as a plethora of our other fabulous female friends -- find ourselves in a precarious and perplexing position: We're cute. We're smart. We're articulate, well-traveled (her more so than me), energetic, fun and down to explore. And yet, at 29 and 28, respectively, we are still single -- standing on 30's lonely doorstep -- with ZERO reasonable prospects."

Little do they know men would like to hear;

"I am an engineer and Megs is an accountant. We support ourselves and actually are independent. We like to drink and want to find a guy who does his own thing and isn't just an accessory to us or a means to have children that we will value more than him. We want to fall in love with a wonderful man and maybe start a family."

Not the overplayed, "Well, I like to travel."

Run men, run. Keep those courting Spidey Senses VERY sharp to avoid the fates these ladies bring.

As always a reliable and funny hat tip to Dalrock.

Enjoy the decline!

28 comments:

Gx1080 said...

"It is NOT us."

It fucking is, you are so unbereable that playing Xbox is a much better alternative than being close to you, much less walking on that deathtrap.

-Warren Zoell said...

It's funny cause it's true.

CSPB said...

For more humorous expose of Meg & Katie:
Ask An Asshole: Round 1
AAAH: Round #2

Aynsley said...

I am only halfway through her comments, but some of them are ... delicious. God bless the men who are calling her out on her crap.

Anonymous said...

One of her comments:

"I just have to say that all this stuff about women being more attractive in their early 20s as opposed to their late 20s or early 30s doesn't apply to me because I lost 90 pounds at age 24-25 and am fitter, younger-looking and healthier now than I ever was then. So suck on that, anonymous male commenters."

Shes the perfect candidate for bait-and-switch: as soon as you marry her she will go back to her "natural" weight. Then you'll be stuck with a bitchy fatty who is to obese to get an erection for. Great.

CSPB said...

This is a great YouTube video. On target as a response to women.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_BDCMi9TSc

Hoss said...

"We like to drink and want to find a guy who does his own thing ..."

I'm calling a big, fat bullshit on that. I have a very strong feeling that their expectations of a man would increase significantly once he had no easy way out. My dad told me that women get married expecting to change their man, and that men get married expecting their woman not to change. That's solid - hard to argue with (and I have the divorce papers to prove it).

I can't believe how many women I've met that are in their mid-thirties to early forties who haven't been married, and are still looking to put two or three kids into production. Plus, they still have this Hollywood idealized picture of relationships and marriage - it's a complete set-up for failure.No thanks, I've got two great kids I have joint custody of, an akita, two PS3s, nice toys, a nice house, and I'm buying a Triumph Scrambler next year... Why would I "F" with that.

Steam said...

Yes, all single men in their 30s who remain single by choice are Peter Pans, irregardless of whether they are contributing to GDP and the federal Treasury and so forth. Nope, because they choose to remain single, they must be immature, because there's some law that says that all men, to be men, must get saddled with a wife who will likely stop giving sex and get fat.

Ceer said...

I commented on Dalrock's website about this. It's tragic that so many women don't understand what's happening. Here are the reasons they can't find any suitable men:

1) They settle on the east or west coast, looking for men in the places where the ratio is already skewed the most heavily against them.

2) They have their own professional jobs. Since female hypergamy is always active, they're looking for the small percentage of men who are higher earning. These men have more choices than women of the same socio-economic group.

3) They even say that they have been unhappy with themselves for the past few years. Only recently they have started blaming men for their lack of relationship skills, when they could spend their whining time sharpening those skills.

4) Society really is stacked against them. Men aren't taught to handle women properly. It has to be learned self-help style through seminars and books. To their credit, many men are starting to take up this challenge and it's growing in popularity. Unfortunately, it seems unlikely that this will translate into more marriage minded men.

Anonymous said...

@ Ceer:

About 4). I think you're wrong on this point. You'll have more marriage minded men who understand game, which means they'll be aiming for girls in the peak (<25) with good histories when it comes to marriage. So more marriage...just not for women such as these two.

- Breeze

Remember there was a time, not so long ago, that an umarried woman at 24 was on the verge of spinsterhood...I expect a shift back toward that attitude among the most eligible men (whatever they publicly proclaim).

Anonymous said...

"Well-Traveled" what is that even supposed to mean? "Oh I like taking expensive vacations to various places and can never stick to somewhere(one) for long... teehee"

Anonymous said...

Before I thought It was just female entitlement. Now I suspect it is pure narcissism.

Anonymous said...

Sorry this is long, but somebody needs to translate the descriptive parts:

We're cute: if the light isn’t too bright and you're looking at us from just the right angle. You're just imagining that extra 15 pounds.

We're smart: and like most people who think they are smart, we aren’t as smart as we think we are.

We're articulate:
why just look at how we can pile on the words when we're bitching about something, as here.

We’re well-traveled:
we’ve gotten laid all over the world. Srsly. Dewey Beach, Rehoboth, that place up in the mountains where those two dudes double teamed Meg on that singles weekend...

We’re energetic: we’re party girls. You’re into party girls, right? Everybody loves party girls, right?

We’re fun and down to explore: the things we want to explore. We would *love* dudes to go antiquing with. Srsly.

And yet, at 29 and 28, respectively, we are still single: because we’re showing mileage and the boys seem to have a sixth sense that causes them to run like scalded cats when they get a whiff of Teh Crazee.

It's not us. It's them:
because it’s never us. It’s *ALWAYS* them. What the hell is wrong with men? They are all idiots. Men are assholes. Why can’t I land a man? I hate my father...

There are simply no acceptable men to date: all those wedding announcements? Phonied up. In fact we know there's no good men out there to date because we've slept with a statistically significant random sampling of them. Trust us - not one of them is good enough for us.

Some other girl can train you youngin's on how to handle our precious parts... I don't have the time: go ahead and sleep with a bunch of girls to get your mattress game down, because nothing is more boring than learning new sexual stuff together with a partner in a meaningful relationship. I promise that when I start to get a little fatter and two years older that I won’t go batshit jealous about how many women you’ve slept with. Really… Meanwhile, as some girl trains you, the guys in my weekend beachhouse at Dewey will train me. No, don't worry. It's not like I'm dating them or anything.

All we're finding is guys who are simply wasting our time:
as we detailed above, all men are too young, too old, too unestablished in their careers, too focused on establishing their careers, or they spent too much time establishing their careers to seek personal growth and now they’re all fucked up and unacceptable to us.


We see the value of companionship, of going through life with a teammate, with someone who knows you better than anybody else, someone whom you can always count on, someone with whom you can build a life and a family:
which is why we need to strongly consider the possibility that Megs and I are actually soulmates and should consider marriage, to each other.

Anonymous said...

The funny thing is this assumption that men in their 29-40 who are not "otherwise committed" ( gay, in a relationship, wildly narcissistic, etc..) are such a hot commodity that fabulous women are snapping them up.

Seriously?

Just in my circle of acquaintances, I have the start of statistical basis to the contrary. We're not talking super-men here, not Alpha horndogs, but nice, intelligent reliable, employed, decent looking guys.

Can they get the time of day from the opposite sex? No, they cannot. Do they have a some rough edges? Yes. (And ladies, you do not?)

Like the captain, but less extreme, they've decided that actively hunting is a waste of time and energy.

Gee ladies, be nice to 'em, they are out there but yer looking for all the wrong things.

I think one of the "game" blogs had it right, young women who are otherwise average, can score as a boyfriend/one night stand, a far above average guy ( until of course he tires of her and drops her for the next hotter younger thing)

Thus average women have an over-inflated idea of where they stand in the market.

Problem is as they age, they are not longer the young hotness they were, and the way above their league guys they could entice are not keen.

Add divorces where guys feel screwed, unrealistic expectations of lifestyle ( thanks TV, Hollywood!) and tada! : A bunch of single guys who have a pretty cynical attitude and other things to do, a bunch of women listening to their biological clocks ticking.

CBMTTek said...

Actually, I can see her point. She is not entirely incorrect.

Men, as a general rule, are children. They enjoy their toys, they enjoy their freedom. They will start looking at other women, regardless of how hot you are or how much you enjoy sex. Deal with it.

Are there guys out there that want to settle down, pump out the puppies and play house for the rest of their lives? Yes, there are, but they are also not going to "do their own thing" or be anything but "momma's boys" Once again, deal with it.

Oh, and the small percentage of men that are:
1. mature
2. want kids
3. want a stable monogamous relationship
4. are independent enough to do their own thing
-while-
5. also being enough of a beta male to play house with you

are all already married to women that were not out drinking/partying/sleeping around with a bunch of alpha males that you somehow thought the power of your vagina was going to immediately transform into a marriage type man.

I cannot say it often enough. Deal with it.

Grounded said...

@CBMTTek

I don't agree with the statement that men are children. The fact is that men are remembering that they're men. We're more logical than emotional.

We do a cost/benefit analysis when it comes to women. Nowadays, this result comes out in the red and hence men are not making the leap to change their lifestyle.

Where is the benefit in marrying a woman that has probably seen more rubber than the autobahn?

What is childish is to follow a woman around and cater to her every whim. Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free.

They want us to buy a higher price for a set of goods that is past its' expiration date. You don't do it with milk, so why would you do it with anything else?

Dalrock said...

Great stuff as usual Captain. Thanks for the hat tip and linkage.

Hoss said...

"...Why can’t I land a man? I hate my father..."

Well done!

John said...

"I like travelling" means, "I like to go play the whore on foreign shores."

Those females don't say the essentials: "I am loyal and want to care for a man, and make a life with him, and bear his children." Their screed is all about them.

Anonymous said...

It's amazing how many never married women there are between ages 48 and 60.

Katie and Meg are well on their way to become one.

Oh, their rationalization hamsters are going 300 RPM.

CBMTTek said...

I could not have said it better then Anon 4:58.

Thank you, well done.

CBMTTek said...

@Grounded:

No, we are kids. Admit it.

Sure, we tend to choose logic instead of emotion. Sure, we analyze the situation and do the cost/benefit analysis. Sure we look at things realistically, and know that marrying her because she is "so hot, I do not want anyone else to get her" will generally result in an ugly divorce.

But, after all of that, guess what, we are still stuck in a 12 year old mindset. We want stuff, plain and simple.

Deal with it.

Anonymous said...

@anonymous
It's amazing how many never married women there are between ages 48 and 60.

Katie and Meg are well on their way to become one.

Oh, their rationalization hamsters are going 300 RPM.

You are wrong on this. Statistically, there is ~ 5% of females never married in this age group (And I suspect this is valid for all western countries). And this comprises entire female population - it means all levels of intelligence, beauty, whatever. So, any woman, who wanted to get married in past, did marry.

Anonymous said...

anon 7:36: 300 RPM? I think you dropped two or three zeroes there.

TW: incess. A crime against nature, as chronicled by John Kennedy Toole.

Anonymous said...

In general, I have found that women always get to date exactly the type of men that they deserve. These women have woken up, and discovered that they are surrounded by "man children", and they decide that their actions and attitudes have nothing to do with that. Well, good luck with that.

What is that old saying? If you meet more than six absolute and total assholes in your lifetime, it is not them, it is you.

Dalrock said...

@Anon at 12:15
Statistically, there is ~ 5% of females never married in this age group (And I suspect this is valid for all western countries). And this comprises entire female population - it means all levels of intelligence, beauty, whatever. So, any woman, who wanted to get married in past, did marry.

While it is true that the vast majority of white women over 30 in the US have married, your stats aren't accurate. I have shared census stats here. Stats for black women in the US are radically different. As for other countries, the numbers look very different as well. I haven't pulled it apart but this page is a good place to start looking for stats in the UK.

Anonymous said...

@Dalrock
I ment 50+ or rather 60+ (those statistics were 15 years old, so 70+). And yes, those times almost every woman married. And your charts confirm the same situation is valid for the USA.
I admit that, these days it is different. And there is a true Revolution in social dynamics - biggest and fastest in millenia.

Anonymous said...

Great Post Captain.

I need to add those girls to my "blogs by women" list just for giggles.

The important think for guys is to screen women out who don't want the same things in life.

Be very up front about NOT seeing marriage or children in your future if that's the case.

Get it out there ASAP.

Likewise, women who want marriage & kids some day need to put their cards on the table very early on.