Ah Haley, you loving beautiful angel you.
I hereby award you the third "Well Hello Second Armored Award." which if you don't know what it is, it is an award granted ONLY to women who support us men in this psychotic battle we have against feminism, serving as those "sweet beautiful babies."
Haley won this award for recognition in exposing how many Christian women abuse (not use, but ABUSE) the bible (and religion in general) to advance their own aims over other people, even JC and God. In this specific case, claiming they can't date "non-Christians," but have no problems leading them or or dating them anyway, causing not just confusion, but some pain and harm on the other end.
However, I also thoroughly enjoy watching this sector of feminism in that it is further complicated with a religious angle. Yes, having a religion and abusing it like a get out of jail free card any time you want to misconstrue the bible for your own dating/courting advantage, certainly is in itself an advantage. But the complication or weakness is one where the adherents blindly subscribe to "fateism" and "the lord will provide" when reality will not. For example, she quotes a purist from her post:
I enjoyed listening to the panel discussion on 2nd dates. It sounds like
CO Springs has a pretty great Christian singles dating scene. Maybe I
ought to move there! Just kidding, of course…but I’ve been a little
discouraged this weekend. I’ll be turning 33 years old this week, and I
haven’t ever been on a first date as an adult, let alone a 2nd date. I
don’t know how I’ll get to marriage someday (something I highly value,
study and prepare for, desire, respect, etc.) if I can’t even get to a
first date. I suppose I’ll keep asking God to work a miracle, because I
think that may be what it will take!
My god, how absolutely precious and delicious.
I'm going to say it again for the cheap seats AND for altruistic purposes as well, because if these Christian ladies want to know why they can't find men, this will answer it for them.
Their Christian-approved wish list is MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE to what they are physically and mentally attracted to.
In order for any man to meet all of those criteria, not to mention be the type to tolerate modern day church, those traits and characteristics are antithetical to what most women find attractive in men - independence, charisma, independent thought, manliness, leadership, wit, cleverness, humor, sexual passion, fun and charm. You just will not find those men at the local singles church group.
However, I, in my cynical nature of course, believe something much more nefarious, because truthfully I don't believe the human mind to be that naive. What I believe you see happening here is on a subconscious (maybe even conscious) level, are these Check-List-Christian women belying the fact they value power and control more than love and affection. This is of course based in my cynical belief the majority of religious practitioners do not follow a religion for the religion's sake, but rather because they gain ancillary and ulterior benefits (business connections, social networks, finding a spouse, belonging, etc.). God, Jesus, the bible are dead last and merely tools to be used to rationalize your mistakes and lord yourself over others. Thus when these women list impossible demands of a husband, cite the bible for convenient (albeit, baseless) moral authority during arguments, or conveniently excusing piss-poor real world results on "fateism" or "God has a plan," is proof not of a "good Christian girl committed to Christ," but a power-hungry coward who values control over love.
And that is not...oh...what is the phrase? "Not very Christian."
Enjoy the decline!
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True Christians are as dangerous as fake Christians.
Since the beginning the Christians are trying to invade and dominate the manosphere. They are no different from feminists.
They pretend the classic biblic role for men as husbands and fathers, exactly like the "man up" of the feminists, regardless of the quality of women.
They hate game exactly like the feminists because it is immoral for them. They hate MGTOW for the same reasons.
They conveniently convey atheists and feminists so they attack two birds with a single stone. They never lose occasion to insult Buddhism even if Buddhism is to Christianity like quantum physics is to kindergarten ABC.
They say society forces homosexuality upon them and they pretend schools teach only creationism.
The list is big. Keep your guard high.
Read Dalrock's whole series on Sheila Gregoire's twisting of Christianity to fit the feminist agenda. Awesome stuff and blog for that matter if you're not already reading it.
Comparing feminists to Nazis is disgusting. The krauts deserve better than that.
“…majority of religious practitioners do not follow a religion for the religion's sake, but rather because they gain ancillary and ulterior benefits (business connections, social networks, finding a spouse, belonging, etc.).”
Devout Christian man here telling you that I agree with your belief above and see it on a regular basis. I’ve lead countless small groups etc. and I consistently find that the ancillary and ulterior benefits are numero uno.
“God, Jesus, the bible are dead last and merely tools to be used to rationalize your mistakes and lord yourself over others. Thus when these women list impossible demands of a husband, cite the bible for convenient (albeit, baseless) moral authority during arguments…”
THIS is what I see in the marriage groups. The majority of the couples have a wife lording her husbands faults over him, constantly telling him he has a long way to go before he can love her “like Jesus loves me.” Nevermind that Jesus would probably tell her (in real love) that her desires are materialistic, her belly is never satisfied, and her focus should be on improving her own insidious sinfulness. He’d be rebuking her ass all the day long…
So the question is, why would any man, even the Churched Up Modern Evangelist Male want to be in a relationship with a woman like that? Most don’t, and those that do are usually fooled into the trap by some really fine looking piece who after the wedding holds out sex like a Milkbone for good behavior, nevermind that whole “one flesh” thing, “I was so tired after watching 2 hours of Dancing With the Stars. I just wasn’t into it after that.”
The rare bird women, like my wife, who understand female nature and seeks to subdue it are coached by the other girls in the group on how to be more feminist. They’d never call it that though and all cry out in horror if you were to call them a feminist.
Meanwhile the men are all told:
Don’t ever to look at other women in lust, lust is HORRIBLE, DON”T I satisfy you?
Never look at porn, you have to control yourself. Porn = cheating
Be gentle always.
Never get upset. The only acceptable show of emotion in any situation is love and thankfulness
Listen intently no matter the subject or amount of whiny crap is being said
Read these 50 books about why your wife is a special snowflake and you should worship her
Don’t EVER curse! Are you an animal? You said a BAD word!
All of those things range from good advice to downright wrong, but no allowance is given to the man for progress in any area, and no reward or appreciation is show once a good thing is accomplished. It’s just “supposed” to be the way a man should be.
LOL – the porn = cheating thing cracks me up. Once in a small group a couple was talking about the bad effect of porn in the marriage and the wife kept saying “he’s cheated on me, same as if he had sex with another woman!!!!” After the third or fourth time another woman stood up and pointed at her and said, “He didn’t actually cheat on you, wait until you know your husbands d*ck has been slammed up inside another girls p*ssy, THEN you got cheated on…” That added a little perspective to the whiny wife…
I guarantee that every one of these so-called Churches will be chock-full of sermons which endlessly praise women, apologize for all that misogyny in the Bible (St Paul - how can we interpret away what he actually said?), and provide whatever rationalizations the women need since it keeps the collection plate full.
And they wonder why they can't find Real Men in these institutions?
On the porn thing, I wasn't a Christian when I got married. My soon to be ex-wife supposedly was. I became one later. In any case, the first year of our marriage, she caught me looking at the stuff. I had no comprehension at the time it could be wrong. She used it to beat me over the head with for the next 12 years, before deciding to divorce me, taking the children and most of my economic livelihood. She never forgave me for it, even though I pointed out her dad did it too (I found his stash one time in his basement).
I put up with this cold hearted, contemptuous woman for 12 years out of a sense of duty (God hating divorce and all that). By this point, I think I'll have a party when it's over.
I doubt it would have been useful for any of the churches we went to to have preached that women are fallen creatures too. My soon to be ex never submitted herself to any authority, except to the friends who encouraged her to divorce me. I don't have enough data on other Churchian women, but I expect there are many others like her.
@ Traveller
Prior to gunpowder, Christianity was global. Following the 16th century, Buddhism and Islam were the dominant forces in the Far East and Levant respectively. Unsurprisingly with violence, as it usually happens with governments. Christians were scapegoats for social ills.
Buddhism is just as violent and pagan as Islam. The tribe at the cost of the individual. Man is an insignificant cog. Cultures of death, etc.
@ Eric, et al
I think it's important to remember the fallen human nature; no human society will be perfect without God's future intervention. These pastors and women are going to be revealed for what they really are, and will taste the consequences. I think Clarey---while not Christian---recognizes the Godly mechanism built into real life:
Bad choices lead to consequences, which human power may not be able to reverse and God will overlook for you to remember him.
Band of Brothers is the best war movie of all time.
Nothing good will come from the brand of uppity ignorance about Christianity that leads off your comment section. These people are tiresome and insecure.
When they perceive a challenge, they retreat to paranoia ("The list is big") rather than confrontation, making endless note of all the people who victimize them rather than expending the slightest effort to understand who their most reliable allies might be. They are complainers who hide in the shadows and furiously scribble down names of enemies, the ones they fantasize about getting revenge on once they magically become king.
There is a reason why Christianity is such a strong presence here. You would be well-advised to treat it seriously and look into why that might be, rather than fearing yet one more bogeyman and sticking your head under the pillow.
Matt
Sounds a lot like some people here are blaming Christianity for the mistakes and attitudes of the sinful people who adhere to it. I firmly Christianity is the best kind of good, but also that there isn't a person on earth who wouldn't twist a good thing to serve their own bad ends. Blame the person, not the religion.
Christianity is not Feminist, though some people try to say it is and use it that way. Blame them.
Christianity is not misogynistic, though other people might use it that way. Blame them too.
The fact is that there is a sexual marketplace in Christian culture as well, and that some women (just like non-Christians) go into it with expectations that are too high. They want that perfect Christian Leader as their husband, and can't understand why he's not asking them out. Or he does, and they get married, and she spends all her time brow-beating him for not meeting her standard (again, just like non-Christians). A lot of times women will see Christianity as the way to get that Traditional Husband so she can be the SAHM she always wanted to be. Gold-digging, plain and simple.
None of that comes from Christianity, it's all Hamster worship.
A lot of Christian women DO get it right, largely because they read what the Bible ACTUALLY SAYS.
Christianity tells men to love their wives, and wives to respect their husbands, and submit to them (Captain / First Officer, not master / slave, though some cultural things like head-coverings can be confusing). Red Pill all the way.
And FYI Traveller, the Apostle Paul encouraged MGTOW over marriage for the sake of the Gospel... If you were strong enough to do it. Some Christians (sinful messed up people, remember) let their own prejudices get in the way, but I think it's safe to say that God and Jesus are fine with MGTOW (Jesus was one, after all).
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