Wednesday, July 29, 2009

Organic = Pointless


Of course those of us with the slightest bit of sense knew this, but I just like to see another scam get exposed.

Of course (and get your paper and pencils out, because the Captain is about to make a very important point) IT'S NEVER BEEN ABOUT HEALTH AS MUCH AS IT'S BEEN ABOUT MAKING THOSE WHO BUY "ORGANIC" FEEL GOOD ABOUT THEIR PIOUS SELVES.

Ergo, even though this is a scam, a farce, a ruse, the sheople will continue to pay a 50% mark-up for...



Anonymous said...

Don't be so quick, you are falling for the misdirection inherent in the reporting.

The primary reason to buy organic is not for enhanced nutritional content, but the avoidance of pesticides and other toxins.

Read it again, and you will notice the study does not deal with that question.

I read your blog regularly, but on this one you are at risk of being the sheeple. Doc Z

Anonymous said...

Another myth about organic foods is that no pesticides are used. In fact, the company I work for makes a nice profit on an insecticide that is cleared for use on organic crops, Pyrethrins. While I agree organic foods are a scam, I hope the sheeple continue to pay because it puts money in my pocket.

Ed Kohler said...

I do a fair amount of co-op shopping where much if not most of the food is organic. While the nutritional differences may be minimal, the quality of taste is very different vs what I could get a Cub or Rainbow. For example, the carrots at Seward Coop taste like carrots while the carrots at Cub look like carrots.

When cracking an organic egg, it feels healthy and strong compared to non-organic eggs. I don't know if that correlates with nutrition, but it certainly feels healthier when I'm cooking with them.

Ro! said...

50% markup is very optimistic. I buy regular milk at $1.98/gallon. The green commies pay $5.99/gallon for their organocrap from the same store..

daniel_ream said...

Here in the wilds of Canada we have a cable channel reality show where a prissy British woman teaches couples who have spent themselves into penury how to get out of debt. (

The whole organic food BS was highlighted on one of their shows; a couple who was spending insane amounts on groceries insisted it was for the health of their family and baby daughter.

The prissy Brit showed them, per month, how much they were spending on organic food and told them to knock it off.

Their response? "Yeah, okay".

They didn't even try to argue, which tells me that they knew all along it was a vanity luxury purchase and not a health issue.

CBMTTek said...

It is about time that someone actually proved this.

Now, if only someone will prove that hybrids don't really save any gas, I will be a happy man.

DubTee said...

I always suspected as much, but I will say one thing about organic milk. It may be more expensive, but if you don't drink as much and find yourself throwing out bad milk it has an awesome shelf life even after opening. Something along the lines of a whole month.

Anonymous said...

If I were into conspiracy theories, I'd suggest that somewhere behind the 'buy organic' movement is someone who basically wants to force a food crisis to excuse a 'population control' campaign.

Wowplayer said...

I agree that organic food is pointless. But I've always understood its primary justification to be the reduced use of chemicals, and therefore less environmental contamination. (Which isn't a valid justification, because they have to use so much more land and labor to achieve the same production.)

Anonymous said...

If you haven't seen it, Penn & Teller's BS have a great episode on GMOs. Here is a subset of it I found on youtube:

I think that P&T have a new episode on Organic food coming up this season. I'm guessing it's similar to yours Capt.

Anonymous said...


The egg 'feels' healthy?

That was either a masterful work of sarcasm at the expense of brain dead leftists or it was a brain dead leftist being completely sincere. Either way I got a tremendous laugh out of it.

Co-op. LOL.

Ed Kohler said...

@anonymous, see for yourself. The eggs are much tougher to crack.

I'm not sure why you need to post anonymously. People who are willing to stand behind their words have the potential to build some credibility over time. Ever an alias would beat anonymous negativity.

johnsal said...

For CBMTTEK: They've actuall done that. The Prius is less energy efficient overall than the dispised Hummer.

"Through a study by CNW Marketing called “Dust to Dust,” the total combined energy is taken from all the electrical, fuel, transportation, materials (metal, plastic, etc) and hundreds of other factors over the expected lifetime of a vehicle. The Prius costs an average of $3.25 per mile driven over a lifetime of 100,000 miles – the expected lifespan of the Hybrid.

Hummer, on the other hand, costs a more fiscal $1.95 per mile to put on the road over an expected lifetime of 300,000 miles. That means the Hummer will last three times longer than a Prius and use less combined energy doing it."

The Prius' environmental damage primarily comes from it's transportation between production points - basically from Canada all the way around the world back to the U.S. and the highly toxic nickle mining and processing for the battery.

Needless to say there are other cars that are more energy efficient than the Hummer. Apparently the Toyota Scion leads the pack at less than 50 cents a mile.

If you know someone who purchased a Prius ask them if they know the extent to which they are damaging the environment. That should leave them speechless for a while.

Anonymous said...

Capt. It's bucktown,

I can't stand the liberal organic crowd either. But be careful with any study that dissuades people from growing/consuming food not from big agribusinesses.

Spend some time at and you will find out that big agribusiness is trying to force states to make it illegal to trade/grow our own seeds. Meanwhile they produce hybrid seeds that are sterile, thus forcing us to need the big agribusinesses seeds each year.

I'm all about self sufficiency, so my gardens are organic. I don't use sprays or anything.

Always remember, if a bug won't eat it, why should we!

I will say though, that non "organic" store bought food isn't as fresh and use chemicals you won't find in my garden. Take potatoes for example. Store bought potatoes use a growth inhibitor on them to stop them from sprouting.

Best thing to do; plant a garden using herloom seeds, let the garden fend for itself, and prepare your own food (all while laughing at hippie types that waste their money at organic shops that are technically corporations which they hate so much).

Dr. Bob said...

As for flavor, much of the veggies and fruit found in grocery stores are hybrids which are made to optimize shelf life or ease of harvesting, not taste.

If you really want great tasting veggies and fruit at nominal cost, grow your own, selecting varieties that are best eaten fresh. You also can choose whatever pesticides and fertilizers you want.

If you don't want to get your hands dirty, go to your local farmer's market.

There's nothing better than a fresh ripe tomato right out of the garden.

Mmm, mmm gggooo oooodddd.

Anonymous said...

would be a lot cheaper if the hippies didn't raise a scare about irradiation.

HIPPIE: What? Irradiate our FOOOD? Are you crazy?

BIG AGRI: What? No. Why? It's perfectly safe. It kills as many germs as if you dunked the food in bleach except without ruining the food. Buttloads of money will be saved in prevented spoilage.

HIPPIE: But the RADIATION! It causes cancer and stuff!

BIG AGRI: Let me explain: the radiation goes through the food. It doesn't stay in the food, and the rays aren't quite high enough in energy to do the things to atomic nuclei it would take to produce radioactive isotopes.

HIPPIE: Science is haaaard.

BIG AGRI: Ah. There's no arguing with you, then. Excuse me while I go jump off a bridge.

HIPPIE: I win!

OrganicTrade said...

It is important to remember that consumers purchase organic for a wide range of reasons. Some choose organic because it enables them to minimize their exposure to toxic and persistent pesticides, synthetic fertilizers, growth hormones, genetic engineering, and artificial ingredients. Others choose organic because in doing so, they support a system of sustainable agricultural management that promotes soil health and fertility, fosters species diversity, helps combat climate change, prevents damage to valuable water resources, and protects farmers and farmers’ families from exposure to harmful chemicals.

Whatever their reasons, more and more consumers are recognizing that organic is worth it.

Chemist said...

"Organic". One of my pet peeves. Words used to have a meaning. "Organic" means carbon based, with the exception of a few compounds such as CO2. Another ruined term in "natural". Oil is natural. It is also organic. Natural and organic compounds are not necessarily benign. In fact some of the most toxic compounds known are are both natural and organic. Ever heard of ricin or botulism toxin? How about snake venom? "Organic food". As opposed to what, inorganic food? Anyone care for a silicon and boron tofu burger?

Anonymous said...

There is NO agreed upon standard, regulated or enforced by ANY government body, as to exactly what "organic" means. I live in NOrthern Michigan where cherries and other fruits have been grown for over 150 years. MOST of that time, since around the 1880-1890s, the farmers used whatever fungicides (usually copper sprays), and insecticides, incuding DDT, they could get their hand on. "Old timers" tell stories of having to "stay inside when the orchards were sprayed."

Now, we have NEW farmers getting their orchards and fields labelled "organic" because somebody (NOT from the FDA or Dept of Agriculture) tested about 3 inches into the soil, asked the farmers if they used chemicals, and gave them an organic certification. I'll bet the pesticides and fungicies go down several FEET, not mere inches.

What a scam....but the farmers MAKE MORE MONEY, which is the ONLY benefit from "buying organic". There is NO "health benefit" I can find...