Sunday, January 08, 2012

"We Want Our Chivalry Back"

Houseboy summarily deconstructs and hits this one out of the park. There is a language warning however.

But the larger point is how can there still be women demanding this garbage? I know it could be merely anecdotal that Mme is just one woman requesting men start opening doors and paying for dates again, while the majority of women now accept chivalry died off with the American dream. But seriously, the request is so outlandish it deserves mockery.

Besides, how better to enjoy the decline when you see naive socialists, feminists and liberals start complaining about the bed they made and having to sleep in it?

9 comments:

Sonny Ortega said...

"In any case, sometime between my high school years and full-fledged adulthood, it seems that it’s become okay for men to not take the lead."

Yes, that would be the second wave of feminism, you hag.

"Insist On Paying The Bill"

Okay, fair enough. Just drop your job, get back to the kitchen and tell the government to give me back the money they use to take care of your kids while you spend 9 hours a day at work.

Ping Jockey said...

"Equality" and chivalry are mutually exclusive -- they can't have it both ways. And since 'you can't put the genie back in the bottle', they had better get used to the idea.
They've made their bed...etc., etc.
Too bad, so sad.

Anonymous said...

Gee, I'm old school enough that I open doors and help others with their baggage or carrying and other helpful things like returning shopping carts for anybody who could use the assist regardless of sex or age. It's not chivalry - it's courtesy.

But what's confusing to me lately, as I am now starting to appear older than dirt, is younger people insisting on opening doors for me. A couple of weeks ago a young female bagger at a local grocery store carried out a 40 lb. bag of water softener even after I told her I could handle it.

Geeze, Louise, I'm not that friggin' old yet. Maybe it's time to break out the old Just for Men.

But, Ping Jockey is right, chivalry is incompatible with sexual equality. You get one or the other, but not both.

By the way, when females talk about sexual equality, they aren't looking for real equality - it's actually a female superiority movement.

Ryan Fuller said...

"But the larger point is how can there still be women demanding this garbage? I know it could be merely anecdotal that Mme is just one woman requesting men start opening doors and paying for dates again, while the majority of women now accept chivalry died off with the American dream. But seriously, the request is so outlandish it deserves mockery."

That seems a little bit hypocritical of you, Captain. You often comment about how much better things would be if women would act they did back in the 1940s. When giving advice to women, it's almost invariably to abandon popular modern nonsense and act like the classy women of decades long past. Women asking for chivalry are basically doing the same thing from the other side of the fence.

Sonny and Ping, you seem to be lumping the feminists in with the women who would rather have chivalry. This isn't a matter of wanting to have their cake and eating it too, or sleeping in the bed they made. Feminists pushed a social change, and some other women think it was for the worse.

Pulp Herb said...

Note to women: bicycles have realized they don't need fish either.

Deal.

Thnxbye

Eman said...

...Guys,

it's just the continuously monotonous hubris of these self-serving high-maintenance gals, that've caused me to swear off relationships, marriage, dating, and even interaction with them altogether...you just can't win, whether you're a Nice Guy, PUA, Gamer, or not!

Going 'woman-less' in response to this is much better...

(P.S.: Thanks again, @Capt.Capitalism for the link-love!!!)

Eman

Ping Jockey said...

Ryan Fuller --
"Sonny and Ping, you seem to be lumping the feminists in with the women who would rather have chivalry. This isn't a matter of wanting to have their cake and eating it too, or sleeping in the bed they made. Feminists pushed a social change, and some other women think it was for the worse."

Sorry, the old "NAWALT" argument doesn't carry ANY weight with me anymore. Where were/are these women who supposedly were not in favor of the feminist-pushed social changes? Where were their voices of protest? When anti-male "must-arrest" DV laws were passed, where were they? When women-first "Affirmative-action" (in reality, discriminatory anti-male) hiring & firing regulations were passed, where were they? When anti-male/male only "sexual harassment" laws were passed, where were they? When a man is divorced by a cheating wife and forced by a biased legal system to live in poverty because he has to pay her at least 60% of his earnings to her for lifetime alimony and 'child support' (for which she is not accountable), where are their voices of protest against this injustice? When she can willingly interfere with his visitation with 'her' children out of pure spite and malice, where are their voices shaming her for such childish and dishonorable behavior? When a man is obviously falsely charged with rape (and convicted), where are their protests against judicial bias and injustice? When a woman can obviously lie in court without punishment or recrimination, where are their calls for justice?

The only female voices you will hear are exalting "You go, girl!", "Girl Power!", "All men are (fill in blank).", etc., etc., etc.
The only time women EVER are concerned about feminism-inspired misandry is when it comes back to bite them on the ass. Well, they are becoming concerned now ONLY because they are seeing how men are finally reacting -- the "Marriage Strike" is only the beginning. More and more younger men are getting the message about how any kind of interaction with women is becoming more hazardous, and the women themselves are so morally corrupt and physically diseased that they are best shunned -- at least you won't get a disease or be falsely charged with rape by physically pleasuring yourself. (Masturbation is not much of a choice, but it's become better than the alternative.)

So, don't play the old "NAWALT" carnard with me -- women have had plenty of opportunities to oppose and protest anti-male prejudice, reverse sexism, and injustice. Their silence means that it has had their assent.

They have shown by their actions and words (or lack thereof) that they hate men.
And Hate Bounces.

Pulp Herb said...

@Ryan: When giving advice to women, it's almost invariably to abandon popular modern nonsense and act like the classy women of decades long past. Women asking for chivalry are basically doing the same thing from the other side of the fence.

The problem is a lot of non-feminist have been happy to play with feminist toys when it is to their advantage and want chivalry when it's not. Those women, not the feminists, are the
real princesses. They're also much more common than feminists.

At this point, if you want chivalry it's a verify first situation...show me you're not a princess and then I'll treat you like a lady. Is this initially harsh for some ladies? Sadly, but the gas station makes me pay first even though I'm not a crook.

When a society chooses to make negative behavior acceptable it's those who are positive who are punished.

Ryan Fuller said...

"Sorry, the old "NAWALT" argument doesn't carry ANY weight with me anymore. Where were/are these women who supposedly were not in favor of the feminist-pushed social changes? Where were their voices of protest? When anti-male "must-arrest" DV laws were passed, where were they?"

Where are they, you ask? Utah. I live here. It might be the only state in the country where popular opinion among both men and women holds a housewife in higher prestige than a single woman with a successful career, but that's how it is around here.

Maybe all women are like how you described where you live. Maybe they're like that everywhere else in the country. I wouldn't know, but I can tell you that where I live, women like you describe are definitely a minority. Most of the women around here want to get married once and stay that way, and to them raising kids is way more important than having a career.